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That's simply not how discourse works on a national scale. There are many things that can be given a platform but aren't because it'd be a waste of time. No one
by popmystack 10y ago
That's simply not how discourse works on a national scale. There are many things that can be given a platform but aren't because it'd be a waste of time. No one is afraid to give these things a platform, it's just pointless. Artificial platforming for the sake of having every imaginable view point with or without merit on the table would be a disaster.
No one is stopping people from having these opinions, speaking about them, or teaching those perspectives. Claiming that this is a cause of freedom of information and somehow making this analogous to Galileo (it's not, not even in the slightest) is absurdly silly.
If you are looking to defend rational discourse and freedom of thought, well, you're not doing that -- leveling out everything on a no-questions-asked baseline is ignorant and becomes borderline satire of unbiased rational thought at that point.
- welanes 10y ago> No one is stopping people from having these opinions, speaking about them, or teaching those perspectives. You may not have been paying attention, but unfortunately that's not the case. https://www.thefire.org/list-of-campus-disinvitations-2000-2014/ https://www.thefire.org/list-of-campus-disinvitations-2000-2... http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/whats-new-about-no-platform-mania/17526 http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/whats-new-about... http://www.mediaite.com/online/university-president-shuts-down-conservative-journalists-speech-citing-free-exchange-of-ideas/ http://www.mediaite.com/online/university-president-shuts-do... And I can link to many more examples if you wish. It's moved from "your opinion is incorrect but I respect your right to speak it" to "I don't agree with what you say so I'm denying your right to express it". Now do you understand the problem? It's quite incredible, actually.
- popmystack 10y agoYou linked to extremely far out there sites as your sources, and two of the stories were debunked the day they came out. Please do provide more examples.
- welanes 10y ago'extremely far out there'? thefire.org - An org dedicated to freedom of speech on campus, founded by University of Pennsylvania professor Alan Charles Kors and Boston civil liberties attorney Harvey Silverglate. Spiked - a 15 year old UK publication with staff from the Daily Telegraph and the Spectator. Mediaite - a popular and left-leaning online news source that aggregates mainstream news sources. Come off it. A browse through the links above are ample for anyone concerned about the truth.
- popmystack 10y agoAnyone concerned about the truth would have investigated those articles with recent information and found them to be thoroughly debunked as hyperbolic claims with a good bit of nuance to them. But you didn't, because you're not. You linked to "credible" sources, with some weird standard of credibility which I'm not even sure you believe yourself.
- welanes 10y agoRight. Link to where they're 'thoroughly debunked'.
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