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Well, at least we didn't start the war, not even under false pretenses, we welcomed a lot of refugees, held real trials, didn't torture or assassinate anyone an

by uola 10y ago

Well, at least we didn't start the war, not even under false pretenses, we welcomed a lot of refugees, held real trials, didn't torture or assassinate anyone and sent countless of soldiers on peacekeeping missions. And it wasn't like the US one day got involved and saved the day. NATO and the UN (Yes, the air strikes were UN sanctioned) was involved from the beginning of the war.

fit2rule 10y ago
Its shocking that the "eurofag" crowd don't seem to get this aspect of the Bosnian conflict: Europe was definitely involved. European troops got there first.
- uola 10y ago
  Mostly "I don't know too much about the world, but the white house said they did great". If Europe had any larger responsibility for the conflict, it was probably that it couldn't stop the war from happening (even though this is a complex topic as well). Of course this is also one of the motivations behind the EU.
  - fit2rule 10y ago
    It is rather shocking that the propaganda defeats peoples willingness to investigate the truth for themselves - especially with regards to a topic that is, quite literally, extraordinarily inflammatory. Europe, having suffered two major world wars as a result of countries thinking they should just intervene whenever/wherever/for whatever reason, has reason to be cautious whenever someone starts a fire in the Balkans. American nationalists attempting to defend their country's honor don't seem to factor in this key value in their analysis: European leaders have learned to be cautious when it comes to making a case for multi-national warfare. America, having gone into the great dark void it current inhabits, for the most part alone (albeit with a collection of puppet states for the sake of keeping up appearances), seems all too boisterous when it comes to just sending military resources and assets across multiple borders. This was all factored into place when Europe responded - before the US - to the Bosnian crisis. Very definitely, mistakes were made - but the conflagration was defused and there is now - relatively speaking - a peace in the area. Bosnia could've been Europes' Syria/(Israel,Palestine). However, it isn't today - and the reason for this is the cool headedness of European leadership. Not the arrogant bragadocio of American militarism.

by uola 10y ago

fit2rule 10y ago

Its shocking that the "eurofag" crowd don't seem to get this aspect of the Bosnian conflict: Europe was definitely involved. European troops got there first.

uola 10y ago
Mostly "I don't know too much about the world, but the white house said they did great". If Europe had any larger responsibility for the conflict, it was probably that it couldn't stop the war from happening (even though this is a complex topic as well). Of course this is also one of the motivations behind the EU.
- fit2rule 10y ago
  It is rather shocking that the propaganda defeats peoples willingness to investigate the truth for themselves - especially with regards to a topic that is, quite literally, extraordinarily inflammatory. Europe, having suffered two major world wars as a result of countries thinking they should just intervene whenever/wherever/for whatever reason, has reason to be cautious whenever someone starts a fire in the Balkans. American nationalists attempting to defend their country's honor don't seem to factor in this key value in their analysis: European leaders have learned to be cautious when it comes to making a case for multi-national warfare. America, having gone into the great dark void it current inhabits, for the most part alone (albeit with a collection of puppet states for the sake of keeping up appearances), seems all too boisterous when it comes to just sending military resources and assets across multiple borders. This was all factored into place when Europe responded - before the US - to the Bosnian crisis. Very definitely, mistakes were made - but the conflagration was defused and there is now - relatively speaking - a peace in the area. Bosnia could've been Europes' Syria/(Israel,Palestine). However, it isn't today - and the reason for this is the cool headedness of European leadership. Not the arrogant bragadocio of American militarism.