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Sort of concerned about this: Who decides which service to use for what thing? What if I don't want to use uber for my cab but a new uber like service that my

Sort of concerned about this: Who decides which service to use for what thing? What if I don't want to use uber for my cab but a new uber like service that my friend just started? If my friend adds an experience to viv for his service, how does viv decide which one to use? what about neutrality etc.?

lowglow 10y ago
We're in the middle of building out something similar with Playa - http://getplaya.com/ http://getplaya.com/ (or track our progress here: https://baqqer.com/projects/playa/ https://baqqer.com/projects/playa/) - An Open Service Exchange for Autonomous Intelligent Agents I think it comes down to a little training from the user, finding out where the user is price sensitive, etc.
kowdermeister 10y ago
It can work similarly like web address bars work now. Type G and google shows up, because that's the most used service that starts with G. It will learn it from you.
edwhitesell 10y ago
I suspect that will get flushed out during their "wait and see" period of how developers use Viv. There are a couple of scenarios 1. Viv's "experience" is integrated into existing apps. So it knows you like your friends new service because that's the App you're in. (Unlikely based on the goals discussed in the video) 2. There are Viv "add-ons" that let you preference one over another. This sounds like the most-likely scenario if Viv is to stay neutral. 3. It's commerce-driven. Viv decides which services are prefered based on who pays the highest for "cab/car service" searches. Basically, the current search advertising model. #3 seems the most likely to me, because it also opens up a host of other interesting scenarios related to existing current SEO business. However, I'd love to be wrong and that it stays neutral (#2).
- tedmiston 10y ago
  In (3), I wonder who will collect the referral commission. I suppose we could see a revenue split like what Apple does for in-app purchases.
  - edwhitesell 10y ago
    I bet that depends on branding. If Viv ends up being the "front-end", they probably collect the commission. If they end up whitelabling the Viv "product(s)", then whoever has their name on it. Could be both.
- Animats 10y ago
  Viv's model of seller interaction seems to be the same as for the pre-Apple version of Siri. Viv cuts a deal with sellers to get an API so they can talk to the seller in some coherent way. They don't try to work through apps intended for humans.
  - bobsil1 10y ago
    Viv tries to get partners to register their API, domain specific verbs and NL training terms in Viv's back end.
viraptor 10y ago
If you look at the screen during the presentation, the home screen includes every app that's used via Viv. Hopefully this means that you use whatever you install. And it makes sense given the embedded app-specific widgets. (for example uber had the very specific map widget that I'm sure is not embedded into Viv itself)

lowglow 10y ago

We're in the middle of building out something similar with Playa - http://getplaya.com/ http://getplaya.com/ (or track our progress here: https://baqqer.com/projects/playa/ https://baqqer.com/projects/playa/) - An Open Service Exchange for Autonomous Intelligent Agents I think it comes down to a little training from the user, finding out where the user is price sensitive, etc.

kowdermeister 10y ago

It can work similarly like web address bars work now. Type G and google shows up, because that's the most used service that starts with G. It will learn it from you.

edwhitesell 10y ago

I suspect that will get flushed out during their "wait and see" period of how developers use Viv. There are a couple of scenarios 1. Viv's "experience" is integrated into existing apps. So it knows you like your friends new service because that's the App you're in. (Unlikely based on the goals discussed in the video) 2. There are Viv "add-ons" that let you preference one over another. This sounds like the most-likely scenario if Viv is to stay neutral. 3. It's commerce-driven. Viv decides which services are prefered based on who pays the highest for "cab/car service" searches. Basically, the current search advertising model. #3 seems the most likely to me, because it also opens up a host of other interesting scenarios related to existing current SEO business. However, I'd love to be wrong and that it stays neutral (#2).

tedmiston 10y ago
In (3), I wonder who will collect the referral commission. I suppose we could see a revenue split like what Apple does for in-app purchases.
- edwhitesell 10y ago
  I bet that depends on branding. If Viv ends up being the "front-end", they probably collect the commission. If they end up whitelabling the Viv "product(s)", then whoever has their name on it. Could be both.
Animats 10y ago
Viv's model of seller interaction seems to be the same as for the pre-Apple version of Siri. Viv cuts a deal with sellers to get an API so they can talk to the seller in some coherent way. They don't try to work through apps intended for humans.
- bobsil1 10y ago
  Viv tries to get partners to register their API, domain specific verbs and NL training terms in Viv's back end.

viraptor 10y ago

If you look at the screen during the presentation, the home screen includes every app that's used via Viv. Hopefully this means that you use whatever you install. And it makes sense given the embedded app-specific widgets. (for example uber had the very specific map widget that I'm sure is not embedded into Viv itself)