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> "Strong evidence where written by whom?" > "What the world needs to do, what Europe needs to do, is stand up on its two feet" Advocating ultra-nationalist,
by emblem21 10y ago
> "Strong evidence where written by whom?"
> "What the world needs to do, what Europe needs to do, is stand up on its two feet"
Advocating ultra-nationalist, anti-internationalist policies is, precisely, what leads to the mass conflict the grandparent was talking about.
- tremon 10y agoEurope is not a nation. Arguing for Europe to stand up is very much internationalist.
- emblem21 10y agoStand up against whom?
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- krapp 10y agoThe United States, obviously. The US is still occupying Europe with hundreds of military bases, it supports and funds terrorist groups and drug cartels, it undermines democratic governments and threatens the security of Europe's people through NSA and CIA sabotage. There's no reason for the US to maintain the overwhelming global military presence that it does, particularly in Europe. World War 2 is over, and the US will never actually go to war with an enemy like Iran, Russia or China, or any country that might actually pose a legitimate threat to global security, so why keep up the pretense of being the "world's policeman?"
- emblem21 10y agoSo you're saying Europe should self-identify as an organization of humans capable of their own autocracy and then use that self-determination to establish their own military assets, which would destabilize global security as yet another non-hegemonic nuclear player enters the space? I stand by my original comment.
- x5n1 10y agoI never did advocate that. I don't think the US should be isolationist. I think the US should take a leadership role, but it should be multilateral and it should respect the rights of other country's citizens, rather than focusing on its business interests only. Also enough with the human rights shenanigans. If you actually believe than do as you say.