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I remember early Rails, around 0.13, pre RC, the community was small the future seemed bright. Little did we know the horrors of what it would turn into. Most o
by askyourmother 10y ago
I remember early Rails, around 0.13, pre RC, the community was small the future seemed bright. Little did we know the horrors of what it would turn into. Most of the professional people left when they saw the security circus, the endless holes and design flaws.
I learnt then - avoid any web framework which has pragprog pushing a book behind it. The new one to avoid because the masses are already circling around it is 'phoenix', and sure enough, pragprog is hawking a book on it.
- astrodust 10y agoThat's a pretty shitty attitude to have. What framework is sufficiently irrelevant that Pragmatic Press or O'Reilly can't be bothered to write a book about it?
- askyourmother 10y agoActually O'Reilly published a good book on Rails in the early days 'enterprise rails', which was a very well written book. The pragprog web books seem to be a bell weather, the shiny web crowd flowed into Rails, node and soon probably phoenix. The early start and promise and phoenix will soon sink under the weight once hex packages bloat in number like the festering turds within ruby gems.
- carsonreinke 10y agoYou are really pushing the turd argument [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11661834 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11661834]
- astrodust 10y agoRejecting a platform just because a publisher has written a book about it is like turning down a job because your astrologer said it was a bad fit. You sound out of your mind. Please try and make a rational argument.
- dimgl 10y agoSilly way to think in my opinion. Elixir has made me super productive, regardless of a Dave Thomas book existing for it.
- dasil003 10y agoOkay, I'll bite: what's your web framework of choice?
- sotojuan 10y agoIDK much about Rails but Phoenix is different. There's not much magic or much hidden behind the scenes. https://dockyard.com/blog/2015/11/18/phoenix-is-not-rails https://dockyard.com/blog/2015/11/18/phoenix-is-not-rails
- chrismccord 10y agoAuthor here. Hawking a book? Are you kidding me? I'm also the creator of Phoenix. I spent two years of my life outside of a FT job to get Phoenix to 1.0. We started a book because first class learning materials outside of the basic online guides is necessary on any platform. I make $3/copy from the book sales, so "hawking" a book does a disservice to me because if this was about money, I wouldn't have spent 8 months of late nights and hundreds of hours working on a book. Please reconsider your argument.
- paublyrne 10y agoOrdered your book last week Chris and can't wait for it to arrive. Very grateful for all the work you've put in.