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That is not true. "Another former curator agreed that the operation had an aversion to right-wing news sources. “It was absolutely bias. We were doing it subje

That is not true. "Another former curator agreed that the operation had an aversion to right-wing news sources. “It was absolutely bias. We were doing it subjectively."

PhantomGremlin 10y ago
Try posting a link to a Breitbart story here on HN. It's silently suppressed. Doesn't even appear in 'new'. Whereas links to rt.com are welcome. That's just how things are, comrade! :) My previous rant: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11518592 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11518592
- xenadu02 10y ago
  Because Breitbart is one of the least trustworthy sensationalist sources of nonsense on the Internet, right up there with Infowars. The fact is the truth isn't somewhere in the middle. We shouldn't be encouraging disingenuous assholes by giving them a platform to spread deliberate lies and mis-information, no matter whether that source is "conservative" or "liberal".
  - PhantomGremlin 10y ago
    I'm actually quite proud of my Breitbart submission. I thought it was a newsworthy story, that added valuable additional information to a topic we had been discussing. But yeah, let's just call everyone we disagree with "disingenuous assholes". The Breitbart story I tried to submit was: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/07/exclusive-displaced-cast-member-how-disney-replaced-me-other-americans-with-cheap-foreigners-on-h1b-visas/ http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/07/exclusive... Try clicking on this HN link: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10182135 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10182135 You can't even see the link at all as an anonymous user. I don't know if it shows up for people to have 'showdead' enabled, or if it's equivalent of a hellban, where I'm the only one who can see it.
- kisna72 10y ago
  Thre is a law in the US where employers must pay foreign workers with H1B Visas at least the average salary in that field. The law is already there to protect US workers. I read the title of that news story and immediately thought this was an "sensational" article targeted towards people who know nothing about how H1B Visa program works. Now if the autoher of the article you posted was training foreign workers not in the US, that would be a different thing. But the article specifies that the person was in the US. Article has some serious bias against foreign workers even though the facts say otherwise.
- dang 10y ago
  breitbart.com is banned, not for being right wing but for being overly sensational. Plenty of comparable left-wing sites are also banned, and plenty of right-wing sites aren't banned (e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=nationalreview.com https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=nationalreview.com). This isn't an ideological call. rt.com is penalized but not banned because occasionally good stories show up there. That's true of most media sites on HN, though the weight of the penalty varies. Again not an ideological call.
zepto 10y ago
I missed that but then: "Other former curators interviewed by Gizmodo denied consciously suppressing conservative news, and we were unable to determine if left-wing news topics or sources were similarly suppressed." The fact that the allegation comes from a self-identified conservative and complains about extremist outlets like 'Breitbart' being suppressed, suggests that all they cared about was their own agenda being propagated. They didn't make a list detailing the treatment of extreme left sites e.g. Daily Kos for comparison. It could be that all non-mainstream political sites received the same treatment.

That is not true. "Another former curator agreed that the operation had an aversion to right-wing news sources. “It was absolutely bias. We were doing it subjectively."

PhantomGremlin 10y ago

Try posting a link to a Breitbart story here on HN. It's silently suppressed. Doesn't even appear in 'new'. Whereas links to rt.com are welcome. That's just how things are, comrade! :) My previous rant: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11518592 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11518592

xenadu02 10y ago
Because Breitbart is one of the least trustworthy sensationalist sources of nonsense on the Internet, right up there with Infowars. The fact is the truth isn't somewhere in the middle. We shouldn't be encouraging disingenuous assholes by giving them a platform to spread deliberate lies and mis-information, no matter whether that source is "conservative" or "liberal".
- PhantomGremlin 10y ago
  I'm actually quite proud of my Breitbart submission. I thought it was a newsworthy story, that added valuable additional information to a topic we had been discussing. But yeah, let's just call everyone we disagree with "disingenuous assholes". The Breitbart story I tried to submit was: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/07/exclusive-displaced-cast-member-how-disney-replaced-me-other-americans-with-cheap-foreigners-on-h1b-visas/ http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/07/exclusive... Try clicking on this HN link: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10182135 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10182135 You can't even see the link at all as an anonymous user. I don't know if it shows up for people to have 'showdead' enabled, or if it's equivalent of a hellban, where I'm the only one who can see it.
kisna72 10y ago
Thre is a law in the US where employers must pay foreign workers with H1B Visas at least the average salary in that field. The law is already there to protect US workers. I read the title of that news story and immediately thought this was an "sensational" article targeted towards people who know nothing about how H1B Visa program works. Now if the autoher of the article you posted was training foreign workers not in the US, that would be a different thing. But the article specifies that the person was in the US. Article has some serious bias against foreign workers even though the facts say otherwise.
dang 10y ago
breitbart.com is banned, not for being right wing but for being overly sensational. Plenty of comparable left-wing sites are also banned, and plenty of right-wing sites aren't banned (e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=nationalreview.com https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=nationalreview.com). This isn't an ideological call. rt.com is penalized but not banned because occasionally good stories show up there. That's true of most media sites on HN, though the weight of the penalty varies. Again not an ideological call.

zepto 10y ago

I missed that but then: "Other former curators interviewed by Gizmodo denied consciously suppressing conservative news, and we were unable to determine if left-wing news topics or sources were similarly suppressed." The fact that the allegation comes from a self-identified conservative and complains about extremist outlets like 'Breitbart' being suppressed, suggests that all they cared about was their own agenda being propagated. They didn't make a list detailing the treatment of extreme left sites e.g. Daily Kos for comparison. It could be that all non-mainstream political sites received the same treatment.