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I'm face-palming at your comment, and I'll take the bait. Firstly, there is no such thing as "retina quality video". If you mean 4K, then say 4K. "Retina" is A

by exodust 10y ago

I'm face-palming at your comment, and I'll take the bait. Firstly, there is no such thing as "retina quality video". If you mean 4K, then say 4K. "Retina" is Apple marketing spin for their high density displays that you seem to be using to describe a standard of video. More to the point, websites are not pre-loading 4K video that is counted towards page weight. To your claims about needing bootstrap for presenting a page on small to large screens. There are numerous easy methods for making a site readable on small and large screens that don't require shoving layout frameworks in and relying on them to make things look good. Learn HTML. Learn CSS. > "Being wasteful is a minor problem" That statement would be great as an ironic t-shirt, but otherwise is yet another facepalm. > "everyone has fast broadband" Great news. With that assumption out of the way, we can get on with pre-loading retina video and throwing page-weight caution to the wind. > "Everything is cached" The utopian world you live in sounds great, but mobile devices are known to be very bad at both long term resource caching and short term memory caching - as in multiple open browser tabs. The point of the article is that even basic articles are bloated whales that waste precious bandwidth on mobile. On desktop, common sense design is replaced with "touch friendly mobile-first impressionism" for actually less accessibility. When spinning globe videos and 2000 pixel auto-playing slideshow presentations in a vast landscape with hamburger menu in corner is considered the "modern web", we need to take a hard look at what modern should be. The improved functionality you're talking about does not need to mean bloat or excessive amounts of data to drive simple things on websites.

onion2k 10y ago
Firstly, there is no such thing as "retina quality video". If you mean 4K, then say 4K. "Retina" is Apple marketing spin for their high density displays that you seem to be using to describe a standard of video. I don't mean 4K. I mean transcoding video assets to specific resolutions that match the website's responsive breakpoints, with 2X resolution versions for high pixel density displays (eg retina). Pushing a 4K video down to someone whose browser viewport is 800px wide is the sort of wastefulness people complain about.
- exodust 10y ago
  I think you mean images. Nobody is doing that with video. Streaming video quality might be dynamically adjusted according to client bandwidth, but the topic here is unreasonable page weight and bloat. Streaming media has nothing to do with page weight. I think I see the point you were trying to make though. Our devices have larger screens and more pixels, so fill every last one of those pixels up to the max with content, and then some. Many marketing and advertising folks would agree with you, while many developers are scratching their heads wondering why they just built a "chicken shit minimalist" website. Beer and a paycheck dissolves the care factor.

by exodust 10y ago

onion2k 10y ago

Firstly, there is no such thing as "retina quality video". If you mean 4K, then say 4K. "Retina" is Apple marketing spin for their high density displays that you seem to be using to describe a standard of video. I don't mean 4K. I mean transcoding video assets to specific resolutions that match the website's responsive breakpoints, with 2X resolution versions for high pixel density displays (eg retina). Pushing a 4K video down to someone whose browser viewport is 800px wide is the sort of wastefulness people complain about.

exodust 10y ago
I think you mean images. Nobody is doing that with video. Streaming video quality might be dynamically adjusted according to client bandwidth, but the topic here is unreasonable page weight and bloat. Streaming media has nothing to do with page weight. I think I see the point you were trying to make though. Our devices have larger screens and more pixels, so fill every last one of those pixels up to the max with content, and then some. Many marketing and advertising folks would agree with you, while many developers are scratching their heads wondering why they just built a "chicken shit minimalist" website. Beer and a paycheck dissolves the care factor.