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The 22% strongly agree in US worries me Edit. Wow, 44% in Spain? Seriously guys? 35% Greece. Somebody should correlate this with GDP per capita, I believe ther

by kfk 10y ago

The 22% strongly agree in US worries me Edit. Wow, 44% in Spain? Seriously guys? 35% Greece. Somebody should correlate this with GDP per capita, I believe there is a negative correlation there to be found...

ForHackernews 10y ago
> The 22% strongly agree in US worries me Why does that worry you? I would generally consider greater global unity to be a positive trend.
- Mendenhall 10y ago
  Lets say you had a neighbor who spent too much money and was always broke, would you want to tie their finances to yours and for you to be responsible for them ?
  - hartpuff 10y ago
    It isn't about money or tying finances together, it's about how people self-identify.
geodel 10y ago
Yea 22% seems high. I can think lots of upper middle class and other rich people who can consume cheap 3rd products and services without endangering their jobs / financial wellbeing and students under education loans would think of them as global citizens. It is like the call to workers of the world unite. But rich and well off workers will be less inclined when there is no upside.
hartpuff 10y ago
Or correlate it with the level or sophistication of nationalistic/xenophobic propaganda in each country. Or with the level of real-life experience and awareness a population has with other countries.
- geodel 10y ago
  I have seen nationalist/culturally inward looking people become very pragmatic for economic gains without actually endorsing liberal thoughts. So I doubt propaganda would have effect on people when it is at cost of economic betterment.
  - hartpuff 10y ago
    What makes you think this is about economic betterment?
icebraining 10y ago
I don't see a correlation. Spain may be relatively simple to explain, as I pointed in another comment, it's a country composed of very demarcated regions, some of which with their own independence movements. It's not surprising to me that a good number of Spaniards feel little attachment to "Spain" as a whole.
azernik 10y ago
Spain's GDP per capita is significantly higher than Greece's, and both are significantly higher than many of the African countries surveyed which have much lower rates. I think the correlation with bad recent news (economic mismanagement, corruption, governmental paralysis, etc.) is much stronger and more informative.

by kfk 10y ago

ForHackernews 10y ago

> The 22% strongly agree in US worries me Why does that worry you? I would generally consider greater global unity to be a positive trend.

Mendenhall 10y ago
Lets say you had a neighbor who spent too much money and was always broke, would you want to tie their finances to yours and for you to be responsible for them ?
- hartpuff 10y ago
  It isn't about money or tying finances together, it's about how people self-identify.

geodel 10y ago

Yea 22% seems high. I can think lots of upper middle class and other rich people who can consume cheap 3rd products and services without endangering their jobs / financial wellbeing and students under education loans would think of them as global citizens. It is like the call to workers of the world unite. But rich and well off workers will be less inclined when there is no upside.

hartpuff 10y ago

Or correlate it with the level or sophistication of nationalistic/xenophobic propaganda in each country. Or with the level of real-life experience and awareness a population has with other countries.

geodel 10y ago
I have seen nationalist/culturally inward looking people become very pragmatic for economic gains without actually endorsing liberal thoughts. So I doubt propaganda would have effect on people when it is at cost of economic betterment.
- hartpuff 10y ago
  What makes you think this is about economic betterment?

icebraining 10y ago

I don't see a correlation. Spain may be relatively simple to explain, as I pointed in another comment, it's a country composed of very demarcated regions, some of which with their own independence movements. It's not surprising to me that a good number of Spaniards feel little attachment to "Spain" as a whole.

azernik 10y ago

Spain's GDP per capita is significantly higher than Greece's, and both are significantly higher than many of the African countries surveyed which have much lower rates. I think the correlation with bad recent news (economic mismanagement, corruption, governmental paralysis, etc.) is much stronger and more informative.