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I just read through the indictment, albeit rushed and IANAL. a. Through the use of fake email addresses, domains, and IPs, Wiseguys claimed to be over 1,000 di
by lmkg 17y ago
I just read through the indictment, albeit rushed and IANAL.
a. Through the use of fake email addresses, domains, and IPs, Wiseguys claimed to be over 1,000 different people. Whether this is against Ticketmaster's TOS may be immaterial, since the "fraud" charge applies just to the act of claiming to be someone else, not the use or material repercussions of the claim (as opposed to a civil suit). There are also a number of cases where Wiseguys' bots gained access to tickets nominally only available to exclusive groups, of which neither the bots (obviously) or Wiseguys were a member.
Additionally, many of the ticket purchases were agreed upon ahead of time with specific brokers, which probably makes the false-identity charges much stronger. There's also one shell company run by Wiseguys that claimed to be selling tickets directly from the venue, which it was not.
b. The tickets say they are not allowed to be resold. I do not know the legal status of such claims, but you agree to those terms before the purchase, which removes one of the weak points of TOS enforcement.
On the personal side of things, while TicketMaster isn't my favorite company either, someone grabbing all their tickets to inflate the prices even higher by adding two additional middlemen doesn't really help things. I consider Wiseguys to be the scummier actor here.
- breck 17y agoThanks for reading and sharing. > a. Through the use of fake email addresses, domains, and IPs, Wiseguys claimed to be over 1,000 different people. If this becomes a crime then we're all in trouble. Who hasn't created a test account using a fake name, etc.? I don't want to be guilty of perjury or fraud because I created 2 digg accounts. > b. The tickets say they are not allowed to be resold. I do not know the legal status of such claims, but you agree to those terms before the purchase, which removes one of the weak points of TOS enforcement. I think TicketMaster would have been right to not honor these tickets then, but not sure how this could be a criminal offense.