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>Finally a break point is reached where the legislators see that allowing comparatively death-trap like normal cars on public roads is irresponsible, and they b

by MrFoof 10y ago

>Finally a break point is reached where the legislators see that allowing comparatively death-trap like normal cars on public roads is irresponsible, and they become banned. Here's why that won't happen: Motorcycles. If motorcycles came into existence in, say, the 1970s, they would've never been made road legal. However, there's too many of them out there nowadays that barring their use through legislation would cause a massive backlash. Now apply that to cars, of which there are far more, and which they cost people significantly more money to obtain. Banning them would be political suicide. Non-automated cars will simply be treated like motorcycles. If you're willing to accept the risks and costs, it's your choice. It just eventually (i.e. 2040 or 2050) won't make sense for the vast majority of people.

JoeAltmaier 10y ago
Motorcycles are the cheap way onto the road. Drivable cars are just the opposite - expensive and getting more so. I can easily see the population of manually-operated cars reducing to nearly zero, then getting regulated out of existence. Look what happened to buckboards and horses!
- MrFoof 10y ago
  >Motorcycles are the cheap way onto the road So are used cars. A smart person doesn't go out and buy a $20,000 economy car. They go buy a $5,000 used car which in fact will be very reliable when maintained. A lot of people instead spend <= $3K. People don't buy cheap motorcycles in the US for transportation. I've met plenty of motorcycle owners, of all walks of life, and only have met one or two who bought it as their only and primary transportation. >then getting regulated out of existence Good luck getting campaign support from Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini and other exotic and sports car (ex. there are more Corvette owners than Porsche sports car owners) owners on that one. There's no backlash against banning Toyota Corollas. However the die-hard car enthusiasts will fight tooth and nail to ensure their expensive sports cars aren't useless, and there's enough of them (with enough money) to ensure any such plan to keep them off the road will fail (and to ensure you never get elected to office again). The "problem" will mostly solve itself, as eventually (decades), TCO alone will result in most people not owning and operating their own vehicle. Most of what will be left are simply enthusiasts, of which there are a significant enough number (same with motorcycles). They'll pay what it costs to enjoy their toy, while the remaining 99%+ of the population won't care for such things and rely on autonomous cars. Moreover, autonomous cars are going to have decades of development having learned to deal with non-autonomous cars.

by MrFoof 10y ago

JoeAltmaier 10y ago

Motorcycles are the cheap way onto the road. Drivable cars are just the opposite - expensive and getting more so. I can easily see the population of manually-operated cars reducing to nearly zero, then getting regulated out of existence. Look what happened to buckboards and horses!

MrFoof 10y ago
>Motorcycles are the cheap way onto the road So are used cars. A smart person doesn't go out and buy a $20,000 economy car. They go buy a $5,000 used car which in fact will be very reliable when maintained. A lot of people instead spend <= $3K. People don't buy cheap motorcycles in the US for transportation. I've met plenty of motorcycle owners, of all walks of life, and only have met one or two who bought it as their only and primary transportation. >then getting regulated out of existence Good luck getting campaign support from Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini and other exotic and sports car (ex. there are more Corvette owners than Porsche sports car owners) owners on that one. There's no backlash against banning Toyota Corollas. However the die-hard car enthusiasts will fight tooth and nail to ensure their expensive sports cars aren't useless, and there's enough of them (with enough money) to ensure any such plan to keep them off the road will fail (and to ensure you never get elected to office again). The "problem" will mostly solve itself, as eventually (decades), TCO alone will result in most people not owning and operating their own vehicle. Most of what will be left are simply enthusiasts, of which there are a significant enough number (same with motorcycles). They'll pay what it costs to enjoy their toy, while the remaining 99%+ of the population won't care for such things and rely on autonomous cars. Moreover, autonomous cars are going to have decades of development having learned to deal with non-autonomous cars.