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I think "Sugar: The Bitter Truth" [1] is worth watching. And the newer "The Skinny on Obesity" [2]. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM https://www

by dewyatt 10y ago

I think "Sugar: The Bitter Truth" [1] is worth watching. And the newer "The Skinny on Obesity" [2]. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM [2] https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL39F782316B425249&feature=iv&src_vid=dBnniua6-oM&annotation_id=annotation_945547 https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL39F782316B425249&fea...

pitchka 10y ago
No it is not. Because it is filled with lies and scaremongering. HackerNews should promote culture of science and critical thinking and shouldn't be accepting of the fad diets like lchf, paleo, keto and other scaremongering bs. This below is worth reading. http://anthonycolpo.com/sweet-stupidity-part-1-is-sugar-really-as-bad-as-alcohol-cocaine-heroin/ http://anthonycolpo.com/sweet-stupidity-part-1-is-sugar-real... http://anthonycolpo.com/sweet-stupidity-part-2-the-bitter-truth-about-robert-lustigs-anti-sugar-claims/ http://anthonycolpo.com/sweet-stupidity-part-2-the-bitter-tr... The reason why people are fat is because they eat more carbs, fat and sugar, not because they eat a particular thing. They also sit a lot, and lie around. Something that can affect your weight and life significantly.
- dewyatt 10y ago
  I don't really consider Anthony Colpo to be a reputable source.
  - pitchka 10y ago
    About what? Debunking Robert Lustig's claims or diet advice? Because I do agree I do not find his diet advice relevant. But he definitely showed some lies and idiocy that Lustig displays.
  - cbd1984 10y ago
    He is, though.
    - dewyatt 10y ago
      I'm open to it, but based on what? Lustig studied at MIT+Cornell and is an MD with years of experience. He spent decades researching biochemistry and obesity and published numerous papers on these subjects. Anthony Colpo, unless I'm mistaken, is just some random guy.
- dang 10y ago
  > HackerNews should promote culture of science and critical thinking and shouldn't be accepting of the fad diets like lchf, paleo, keto and other scaremongering bs. No, Hacker News should promote good conversation: civil discourse that respects people's right to differing views. This is a pluralistic place where everyone has a right to be wrong. Strident denunciations—even (or rather especially) in the name of correct scientific positions—are corrosive of the social contract here and should be eschewed regardless of how right you are, or believe you are. Otherwise the endgame is a few absolutists yelling at each other, and everyone else leaving.
  - deleted 10y ago
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  - cbd1984 10y ago
    So you censor his side and leave the rest up?
    - okket 10y ago
      I don't know why this got flagged. There were two links to Anthony Colpo. I tried to read them and get his point, but his style is borderline unreadable. No scientific arguments, only vitriol / straw man with lots of overloaded images. Feel free to Google him. The flagged post was in this tone also, calling lies and requested we do not discuss the sugar hypotheses here. So you could interpret this as "The call for censorship got censored" ;)
      - Evgeny 10y ago
        I tried to read them and get his point, but his style is borderline unreadable. No scientific arguments, The first link has 28 references to scientific texts and studies, the second has 57. Speak what you want about his style, but his works are always well-researched and well-referenced.
        okket 10y ago
        Adding random citations to straw man arguments proves nothing. It only make it look "sciency". Is his "work" cited anywhere in relevant science journals? So far I only find a lot echo-chamber forums and questionable publishers (Kopp-Verlag, esoteric/far right stuff)
cbd1984 10y ago
These are factually incorrect, as has been proven: http://anthonycolpo.com/sweet-stupidity-part-1-is-sugar-really-as-bad-as-alcohol-cocaine-heroin/ http://anthonycolpo.com/sweet-stupidity-part-1-is-sugar-real... http://anthonycolpo.com/sweet-stupidity-part-2-the-bitter-truth-about-robert-lustigs-anti-sugar-claims/ http://anthonycolpo.com/sweet-stupidity-part-2-the-bitter-tr...

by dewyatt 10y ago

pitchka 10y ago

No it is not. Because it is filled with lies and scaremongering. HackerNews should promote culture of science and critical thinking and shouldn't be accepting of the fad diets like lchf, paleo, keto and other scaremongering bs. This below is worth reading. http://anthonycolpo.com/sweet-stupidity-part-1-is-sugar-really-as-bad-as-alcohol-cocaine-heroin/ http://anthonycolpo.com/sweet-stupidity-part-1-is-sugar-real... http://anthonycolpo.com/sweet-stupidity-part-2-the-bitter-truth-about-robert-lustigs-anti-sugar-claims/ http://anthonycolpo.com/sweet-stupidity-part-2-the-bitter-tr... The reason why people are fat is because they eat more carbs, fat and sugar, not because they eat a particular thing. They also sit a lot, and lie around. Something that can affect your weight and life significantly.

dewyatt 10y ago
I don't really consider Anthony Colpo to be a reputable source.
- pitchka 10y ago
  About what? Debunking Robert Lustig's claims or diet advice? Because I do agree I do not find his diet advice relevant. But he definitely showed some lies and idiocy that Lustig displays.
- cbd1984 10y ago
  He is, though.
  - dewyatt 10y ago
    I'm open to it, but based on what? Lustig studied at MIT+Cornell and is an MD with years of experience. He spent decades researching biochemistry and obesity and published numerous papers on these subjects. Anthony Colpo, unless I'm mistaken, is just some random guy.
dang 10y ago
> HackerNews should promote culture of science and critical thinking and shouldn't be accepting of the fad diets like lchf, paleo, keto and other scaremongering bs. No, Hacker News should promote good conversation: civil discourse that respects people's right to differing views. This is a pluralistic place where everyone has a right to be wrong. Strident denunciations—even (or rather especially) in the name of correct scientific positions—are corrosive of the social contract here and should be eschewed regardless of how right you are, or believe you are. Otherwise the endgame is a few absolutists yelling at each other, and everyone else leaving.
- deleted 10y ago
  [deleted]
- cbd1984 10y ago
  So you censor his side and leave the rest up?
  - okket 10y ago
    I don't know why this got flagged. There were two links to Anthony Colpo. I tried to read them and get his point, but his style is borderline unreadable. No scientific arguments, only vitriol / straw man with lots of overloaded images. Feel free to Google him. The flagged post was in this tone also, calling lies and requested we do not discuss the sugar hypotheses here. So you could interpret this as "The call for censorship got censored" ;)
    - Evgeny 10y ago
      I tried to read them and get his point, but his style is borderline unreadable. No scientific arguments, The first link has 28 references to scientific texts and studies, the second has 57. Speak what you want about his style, but his works are always well-researched and well-referenced.
      - okket 10y ago
        Adding random citations to straw man arguments proves nothing. It only make it look "sciency". Is his "work" cited anywhere in relevant science journals? So far I only find a lot echo-chamber forums and questionable publishers (Kopp-Verlag, esoteric/far right stuff)

cbd1984 10y ago

These are factually incorrect, as has been proven: http://anthonycolpo.com/sweet-stupidity-part-1-is-sugar-really-as-bad-as-alcohol-cocaine-heroin/ http://anthonycolpo.com/sweet-stupidity-part-1-is-sugar-real... http://anthonycolpo.com/sweet-stupidity-part-2-the-bitter-truth-about-robert-lustigs-anti-sugar-claims/ http://anthonycolpo.com/sweet-stupidity-part-2-the-bitter-tr...