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The 641M number provides context for the media narratives regarding fat acceptance and body shaming. Perhaps worse than the epidemic of people being overweight,

by Olscore 10y ago

The 641M number provides context for the media narratives regarding fat acceptance and body shaming. Perhaps worse than the epidemic of people being overweight, is growing sympathy to accept and not to do anything about it. If you have been following social justice issues you will understand what I am referring to. This issue is beyond health, since it has been made political. Addressing it likely requires fighting back against rhetoric from the fat acceptance movement. (Not looking for an argument, just saying.)

omegaworks 10y ago
>Perhaps worse than the epidemic of people being overweight, is growing sympathy to accept and not to do anything about it. Really? Worse then actual suffering and societal costs is the treatment of obesity as a disease and not a character flaw? Not only should people suffer, but they should be shamed for it. That's ridiculous. Just saying.
- Olscore 10y ago
  > Really? Worse then actual suffering and societal costs is the treatment of obesity as a disease and not a character flaw? Not only should people suffer, but they should be shamed for it. What an overly sensitive response. How ridiculous is Hacker News? Where did I say anything about [1] the suffering, [2] societal costs, or [3] treatment of obesity as a disease? Mentioned it's political and has a media component to it, get attacked. There factually are people, like the parent comment, who will not fairly discuss the issue on neutral terms. Derailed into personal attacks, insensitivity, or straw man arguments like the above comment. How can HN parade itself as intellectual discussion when it can't even handle benign comments.
  - hartpuff 10y ago
    ^ (Not looking for an argument though, just saying.)
  - pessimizer 10y ago
    You're being the overly sensitive one here. You said that fat people should be shamed because being fat makes you sick, someone replied that it doesn't seem right that people who are suffering because they are sick because they are fat should also be suffering because they are being shamed because they are sick because they are fat, and you started crying "I'm the victim in all of this! I'm being shamed for suggesting that people should be shamed because they are sick because they are fat! Won't somebody think about me!"
    - Olscore 10y ago
      > You said that fat people should be shamed because being fat makes you sick Haha, is this a joke? Is anyone else seeing this insanity?
      - hartpuff 10y ago
        ^ (Still not looking for an argument, just saying.)
    - vonmoltke 10y ago
      > You said that fat people should be shamed because being fat makes you sick Where did Olscore say that?
- tremon 10y ago
  they should be shamed for it People don't improve without help or guidance. That goes for all of us, in many aspects of life. To shame people who suffer is to ostracize them, and this will not solve the problem, it will exacerbate it. If you really want to shame people, then shame the politicians and industry executives that are peddling unhealthy foods and eating habits. Maybe when we've leveled the playing field enough so that healthy food is cheaper and more readily available than unhealthy foods, then you can start shaming obese people like you're shaming smokers now. You are shaming smokers as fervent as you wrote your post, right?
- pgeorgi 10y ago
  > obesity as a disease is an idea the anti-fat-shaming community rejects. For (some of[0]) them, calling obesity a disease is already shaming. [0] you'll always find a counter example
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by Olscore 10y ago

omegaworks 10y ago

>Perhaps worse than the epidemic of people being overweight, is growing sympathy to accept and not to do anything about it. Really? Worse then actual suffering and societal costs is the treatment of obesity as a disease and not a character flaw? Not only should people suffer, but they should be shamed for it. That's ridiculous. Just saying.

Olscore 10y ago
> Really? Worse then actual suffering and societal costs is the treatment of obesity as a disease and not a character flaw? Not only should people suffer, but they should be shamed for it. What an overly sensitive response. How ridiculous is Hacker News? Where did I say anything about [1] the suffering, [2] societal costs, or [3] treatment of obesity as a disease? Mentioned it's political and has a media component to it, get attacked. There factually are people, like the parent comment, who will not fairly discuss the issue on neutral terms. Derailed into personal attacks, insensitivity, or straw man arguments like the above comment. How can HN parade itself as intellectual discussion when it can't even handle benign comments.
- hartpuff 10y ago
  ^ (Not looking for an argument though, just saying.)
- pessimizer 10y ago
  You're being the overly sensitive one here. You said that fat people should be shamed because being fat makes you sick, someone replied that it doesn't seem right that people who are suffering because they are sick because they are fat should also be suffering because they are being shamed because they are sick because they are fat, and you started crying "I'm the victim in all of this! I'm being shamed for suggesting that people should be shamed because they are sick because they are fat! Won't somebody think about me!"
  - Olscore 10y ago
    > You said that fat people should be shamed because being fat makes you sick Haha, is this a joke? Is anyone else seeing this insanity?
    - hartpuff 10y ago
      ^ (Still not looking for an argument, just saying.)
  - vonmoltke 10y ago
    > You said that fat people should be shamed because being fat makes you sick Where did Olscore say that?
tremon 10y ago
they should be shamed for it People don't improve without help or guidance. That goes for all of us, in many aspects of life. To shame people who suffer is to ostracize them, and this will not solve the problem, it will exacerbate it. If you really want to shame people, then shame the politicians and industry executives that are peddling unhealthy foods and eating habits. Maybe when we've leveled the playing field enough so that healthy food is cheaper and more readily available than unhealthy foods, then you can start shaming obese people like you're shaming smokers now. You are shaming smokers as fervent as you wrote your post, right?
pgeorgi 10y ago
> obesity as a disease is an idea the anti-fat-shaming community rejects. For (some of[0]) them, calling obesity a disease is already shaming. [0] you'll always find a counter example

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