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Guilty until proven innocent. I am disgusted at how quickly people give in to this. Go through the scanner/rectal screen to prove your innocence.

rick888 17y ago
"Guilty until proven innocent. I am disgusted at how quickly people give in to this. Go through the scanner/rectal screen to prove your innocence." Do you have a better answer? We are searching people before they go onto a plane. We can either have less security and potentially allow someone to get through and kill innocent people (which has already happened and almost happened on multiple occasions) or have body-scans and other measures to prevent these situations. I have flown many times in the last year and I don't mind the extra levels of security that are in place. I think the real problem is that the security measures are working too well and people are getting complacent. It reminds me of Y2K. After it happened, there were many people that said "see, nothing happened!". When in reality, thousands of people worked for a long time to fix all of the issues that would have been a problem.
- defen 17y ago
  > Do you have a better answer? Read up about Israeli airport security measures - http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1025173 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1025173
  - ErrantX 17y ago
    Israel have the dual advantage of smaller numbers of required staff plus higher risk of terrorist activity (which leads to better investment into security infrastructure) They do have a reasonably good security set up (been through Israeli airports a few times now) but they do have issues/idiots too (who doesnt). They have a reasonable trade off of privacy over security. For a larger country with lower risk cheap options such as body scanners are a "solution" because they theoretically require lower skilled staff to spot a terrorist. Of course the theory is poor in the first place and the execution worse (so far)
  - rick888 17y ago
    "Read up about Israeli airport security measures" From the post, it sounds like they have better trained employees with more racial profiling. That level of racial profiling, even though it probably does work, would not be accepted in the US.

rick888 17y ago

"Guilty until proven innocent. I am disgusted at how quickly people give in to this. Go through the scanner/rectal screen to prove your innocence." Do you have a better answer? We are searching people before they go onto a plane. We can either have less security and potentially allow someone to get through and kill innocent people (which has already happened and almost happened on multiple occasions) or have body-scans and other measures to prevent these situations. I have flown many times in the last year and I don't mind the extra levels of security that are in place. I think the real problem is that the security measures are working too well and people are getting complacent. It reminds me of Y2K. After it happened, there were many people that said "see, nothing happened!". When in reality, thousands of people worked for a long time to fix all of the issues that would have been a problem.

defen 17y ago
> Do you have a better answer? Read up about Israeli airport security measures - http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1025173 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1025173
- ErrantX 17y ago
  Israel have the dual advantage of smaller numbers of required staff plus higher risk of terrorist activity (which leads to better investment into security infrastructure) They do have a reasonably good security set up (been through Israeli airports a few times now) but they do have issues/idiots too (who doesnt). They have a reasonable trade off of privacy over security. For a larger country with lower risk cheap options such as body scanners are a "solution" because they theoretically require lower skilled staff to spot a terrorist. Of course the theory is poor in the first place and the execution worse (so far)
- rick888 17y ago
  "Read up about Israeli airport security measures" From the post, it sounds like they have better trained employees with more racial profiling. That level of racial profiling, even though it probably does work, would not be accepted in the US.