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Isn't NA mandated by courts? Even for pot sometimes? A growing group could easily just mean a change in law enforcement or sentencing.

themartorana 11y ago
Which is a terrible intrusion upon people voluntarily there for actual support and help.
- onetwotree 11y ago
  Sort of - we don't really mind if people come to get their court thingies signed after the meeting. The thing is, most people who don't want to be there quickly realize that they can just have anyone sign them. There's no way for a court to verify that people are going to meetings.
sgnelson 11y ago
It could, but I guarantee you it's not. In case you haven't heard, there is a very real heroin epidemic in a large part of the country. (largely caused by the over prescription, and then cutting off, via a change in regulations and practices of prescribed painkillers). But I wasn't being (intentionally) being an asshole when I say "In case you haven't heard." It's being reported in the news, but it is largely a local story, and even in a lot of cases, its kind of like "There's a Heroin Epidemic, it's now affecting white rich kids, nobody knows what to do." I don't know if it is a function people being tired of the drug war or what, but it just seems like there's a quiet epidemic that's tragically killing (and/or negatively affecting) millions of Americans out there.
onetwotree 11y ago
The emergence of drug courts in many parts of the country has actually led to a sharp decrease in people attending NA and AA meetings because a court ordered them to. I'm very active in the recovery community in Madison Wisconsin, and holy smokes, it's all junkies these days! Not complaining, the experience is similar enough to mine as an old fashioned booze hound with occasional forays into meth addiction that I can help them, but man - it's never been like this before!
OliverJones 11y ago
Not around here.

themartorana 11y ago

Which is a terrible intrusion upon people voluntarily there for actual support and help.

onetwotree 11y ago
Sort of - we don't really mind if people come to get their court thingies signed after the meeting. The thing is, most people who don't want to be there quickly realize that they can just have anyone sign them. There's no way for a court to verify that people are going to meetings.

sgnelson 11y ago

It could, but I guarantee you it's not. In case you haven't heard, there is a very real heroin epidemic in a large part of the country. (largely caused by the over prescription, and then cutting off, via a change in regulations and practices of prescribed painkillers). But I wasn't being (intentionally) being an asshole when I say "In case you haven't heard." It's being reported in the news, but it is largely a local story, and even in a lot of cases, its kind of like "There's a Heroin Epidemic, it's now affecting white rich kids, nobody knows what to do." I don't know if it is a function people being tired of the drug war or what, but it just seems like there's a quiet epidemic that's tragically killing (and/or negatively affecting) millions of Americans out there.

onetwotree 11y ago

The emergence of drug courts in many parts of the country has actually led to a sharp decrease in people attending NA and AA meetings because a court ordered them to. I'm very active in the recovery community in Madison Wisconsin, and holy smokes, it's all junkies these days! Not complaining, the experience is similar enough to mine as an old fashioned booze hound with occasional forays into meth addiction that I can help them, but man - it's never been like this before!

OliverJones 11y ago

Not around here.