If you want to see it on a dialectic +/- scale, fine by me, who am I to convince you otherwise .. but it is in fact a gradient scale, which starts with witless/

If you want to see it on a dialectic +/- scale, fine by me, who am I to convince you otherwise .. but it is in fact a gradient scale, which starts with witless/robotic/cult chanting, and ends with crimes against humanity. BTW, yes, the USA is on the upper echelons of this scale: or did you think its wanton pillaging of nation after nation with its military-industrial toys is justifiable, somehow? Hey, "Sieg Heil!" started off 'harmless enough' too, yo. All the cool cats were doing it .. at first. So .. Who knows where all this is going to go .. we may well be on the precipice of an enormous catastrophe, all for the whim of wanton displays of pride, prejudice, nationalism, and awe-/fear-inspiring technology. All I'm saying is, it took a lot of nations for America to get where it is today. It didn't do it alone. And some of those nations were seriously broken in the process .. (Besides which, there is no such thing as 'USA'.. it is a fiction. Gravity doesn't care about your fancy flag. In space, nobody can hear your chant..)