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This ad is frighteningly similar to the ones out there in the real world at all but the most progressive papers, only difference is they pay a little bit better

by morisy 17y ago

This ad is frighteningly similar to the ones out there in the real world at all but the most progressive papers, only difference is they pay a little bit better.

adelevie 17y ago
The problem is that tech people can go anywhere with their skills. They're not limited to journalism. This means that newsrooms should make it a priority to at least be somewhat competitive when it comes to hiring technical talent.
- afterburner 17y ago
  Exactly. For the aspiring journalists, working at the college paper is a sweet way to get an edge in the journalism world, something very few other jobs at that level can provide. For the web developer, this is merely one of thousands of opportunities, and holds no special lure for being the school paper. Clearly, the journalists/editors here are looking at it from their limited point of view. Given that, the tone of the ad is somewhat disrespectful ("you have to know everything, but we'll pay you nothing")
  - Locke1689 17y ago
    I like to think of an internship as a kind of apprenticeship. In some cases, the apprenticeship is worth it. For example, a tech internship at Google or Microsoft lets you work on some of the most widely used software in the world with some extremely competent people. In this instance perhaps being unpaid wouldn't really be a big deal -- the real value would be in the experience you get and the things you learn. Working for a college newspaper, however, is unlikely to provide a good CS student with anything more than they'd learn on their own with a rather useless name to drop at the end. While working for a college newspaper may be a high accomplishment in the journalism world, it doesn't really mean all that much in the tech world. Also, Microsoft and Google pay. They pay a lot.
ZachPruckowski 17y ago
The problem is that a company run by content creators (and news/opinion articles are content just like film/music is) is going to tend to see the distribution of that content as ancillary to its creation. They then see the IT/web department as being on the same plane as the delivery-boys in terms of importance.

by morisy 17y ago

This ad is frighteningly similar to the ones out there in the real world at all but the most progressive papers, only difference is they pay a little bit better.

adelevie 17y ago

The problem is that tech people can go anywhere with their skills. They're not limited to journalism. This means that newsrooms should make it a priority to at least be somewhat competitive when it comes to hiring technical talent.

afterburner 17y ago
Exactly. For the aspiring journalists, working at the college paper is a sweet way to get an edge in the journalism world, something very few other jobs at that level can provide. For the web developer, this is merely one of thousands of opportunities, and holds no special lure for being the school paper. Clearly, the journalists/editors here are looking at it from their limited point of view. Given that, the tone of the ad is somewhat disrespectful ("you have to know everything, but we'll pay you nothing")
- Locke1689 17y ago
  I like to think of an internship as a kind of apprenticeship. In some cases, the apprenticeship is worth it. For example, a tech internship at Google or Microsoft lets you work on some of the most widely used software in the world with some extremely competent people. In this instance perhaps being unpaid wouldn't really be a big deal -- the real value would be in the experience you get and the things you learn. Working for a college newspaper, however, is unlikely to provide a good CS student with anything more than they'd learn on their own with a rather useless name to drop at the end. While working for a college newspaper may be a high accomplishment in the journalism world, it doesn't really mean all that much in the tech world. Also, Microsoft and Google pay. They pay a lot.

ZachPruckowski 17y ago

The problem is that a company run by content creators (and news/opinion articles are content just like film/music is) is going to tend to see the distribution of that content as ancillary to its creation. They then see the IT/web department as being on the same plane as the delivery-boys in terms of importance.