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Every post I made has been downvoted, and the edits that mention downvoting obviously came after I was downvoted. Some downvoted posts don't mention downvoting

Every post I made has been downvoted, and the edits that mention downvoting obviously came after I was downvoted. Some downvoted posts don't mention downvoting at all. Two are downvoted for asking someone to clarify their argument and for rebutting someone else's incorrect point. Or they're downvoted because some people simply downvoted every post I made, because I made it. I'm mostly being downvoted by people who downvote opinions they don't agree with, or people they don't like, just as other people are in this thread, and which happens in other threads all the time. > https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html > Avoid gratuitous negativity. How is using what is literally a negative arrow on posts or posters you don't like/agree with anything but gratuitous negativity? > When disagreeing, please reply to the argument How is lazily pressing a down arrow replying to the argument? > it makes boring reading. It makes boring reading to see posts all over the place whited out (yet no actual written refutation of the post content) because some people can't tolerate or be bothered to discuss or argue with things they disagree with. If HN is against negativity, then maybe it should not have a button that expresses pure negativity. And if something is being complained about so often there have to be two rules against it, maybe it's time to get rid of the (non-constructive) thing so many people are complaining about. If people want to reward discussions or comments, or have them rise to the top, they can achieve such by pressing the up button (which AFAIK is how it works on the submissions - no downvote). The only reason a downvote is necessary is to provide childish, fragile people a way to 'hide' or 'punish' opinions or people they don't like but are too incapable/lazy to refute. Since I doubt I'm the first person to make these points, and suspect nothing will change after this post, I guess it's deliberate HN policy to pander to such people.

DanBC 10y ago
Almost all your posts in yhis thread accuse anyone who disagrees with you of being childish. It should be fucking obvious that insults are a quick way to attract many downvotes.
- hartpuff 10y ago
  It should also be fucking obvious that downvotes are not being made for something as yet unknown that I do in the future and only in response to the downvoting (ie: criticising it as childish). And downvoting someone because they call specific downvoting childish? That seems like the epitome of childishness to me, and simply validates my point.
  - DanBC 10y ago
    Your first post to this thread says: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11644954 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11644954 > Downvoting (ie, trying to bury or hide a post) because someone says sumfing u don't wike is pathetic and childish; if you disagree either argue against it or move on. The rest of your comments increase the attack. You are getting downvotes because your posts go on a meta tangent, and use insults. Stuff like this... > umfing u don't wike is pathetic and childish ... is obviously going to get downvoted.
    - hartpuff 10y ago
      Where's my so-called "attack" or "insult" in this entirely reasonable post then (aside from the edit, which was obviously made after I was downvoted), with a lower score than the one you cited? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11645104 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11645104 Or this one (also with a lower score): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11645505 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11645505 > is obviously going to get downvoted. For the baby language, maybe, but downvoting something you don't personally like is pathetic and childish. That's not an "attack" or an "insult", it's a fact. And it's, if anything, even more pathetic and childish to petulantly downvote a poster (perhaps across different posts) because they point out that fact.
      - DanBC 10y ago
        https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11645104 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11645104 was downvoted for being an incoherent non-addition to the discussion. I've re-read it several times and I have no idea why you thought it was relevant or what point you were trying to make. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11645505 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11645505 > I honestly can't tell if this is meant to be serious or not. Comments like that will usually get you downvotes. > For the baby language, maybe, but downvoting something you don't personally like is pathetic and childish. "People will downvote for disagreement" is a long established convention on HN. You might disagree with (I do too), but pointing it out by calling people childish is going to get downvoted. Your choice is to keep complaining using the same language (but stop complaining about being downvoted if you do so), or to use different language to complain about downvoting. Here's PG suggesting that downvote to disagree is a problem https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1057347 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1057347 Here' PG suggesting that downvote to disagree isn't a problem: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=117171 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=117171 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=658683 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=658683 See also this thread where most people are talking about a misuse of upvoting (to upvote mean or dumb comments). https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2403696 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2403696 > And it's, if anything, even more pathetic and childish to petulantly downvote a poster (perhaps across different posts) because they point out that fact. It's also childish to keep whining^W complaining about downvotes using the same language that got you downvotes.

DanBC 10y ago

Almost all your posts in yhis thread accuse anyone who disagrees with you of being childish. It should be fucking obvious that insults are a quick way to attract many downvotes.

hartpuff 10y ago
It should also be fucking obvious that downvotes are not being made for something as yet unknown that I do in the future and only in response to the downvoting (ie: criticising it as childish). And downvoting someone because they call specific downvoting childish? That seems like the epitome of childishness to me, and simply validates my point.
- DanBC 10y ago
  Your first post to this thread says: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11644954 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11644954 > Downvoting (ie, trying to bury or hide a post) because someone says sumfing u don't wike is pathetic and childish; if you disagree either argue against it or move on. The rest of your comments increase the attack. You are getting downvotes because your posts go on a meta tangent, and use insults. Stuff like this... > umfing u don't wike is pathetic and childish ... is obviously going to get downvoted.
  - hartpuff 10y ago
    Where's my so-called "attack" or "insult" in this entirely reasonable post then (aside from the edit, which was obviously made after I was downvoted), with a lower score than the one you cited? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11645104 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11645104 Or this one (also with a lower score): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11645505 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11645505 > is obviously going to get downvoted. For the baby language, maybe, but downvoting something you don't personally like is pathetic and childish. That's not an "attack" or an "insult", it's a fact. And it's, if anything, even more pathetic and childish to petulantly downvote a poster (perhaps across different posts) because they point out that fact.
    - DanBC 10y ago
      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11645104 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11645104 was downvoted for being an incoherent non-addition to the discussion. I've re-read it several times and I have no idea why you thought it was relevant or what point you were trying to make. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11645505 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11645505 > I honestly can't tell if this is meant to be serious or not. Comments like that will usually get you downvotes. > For the baby language, maybe, but downvoting something you don't personally like is pathetic and childish. "People will downvote for disagreement" is a long established convention on HN. You might disagree with (I do too), but pointing it out by calling people childish is going to get downvoted. Your choice is to keep complaining using the same language (but stop complaining about being downvoted if you do so), or to use different language to complain about downvoting. Here's PG suggesting that downvote to disagree is a problem https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1057347 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1057347 Here' PG suggesting that downvote to disagree isn't a problem: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=117171 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=117171 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=658683 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=658683 See also this thread where most people are talking about a misuse of upvoting (to upvote mean or dumb comments). https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2403696 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2403696 > And it's, if anything, even more pathetic and childish to petulantly downvote a poster (perhaps across different posts) because they point out that fact. It's also childish to keep whining^W complaining about downvotes using the same language that got you downvotes.