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> Maciej was rejected because Kevin didn't want him to participate in YCF This is a pretty dishonest characterization, isn't it? Maciej was rejected because he

> Maciej was rejected because Kevin didn't want him to participate in YCF This is a pretty dishonest characterization, isn't it? Maciej was rejected because he didn't want to participate in YCF, according to what kevin and dang have previously explained about their post-vote phone call. Of course, that was their version of the call. I may have missed where Maciej countered with, "Not true. I wanted to participate in YCF. Kevin didn't want me in the group." Disclaimer: I voted for Pinboard.

lemming 10y ago
No, it's not: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11633517 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11633517 Kevin explained pretty clearly that it was his call, and Maciej disagreed with that.
- bobwaycott 10y ago
  Ah, okay. So, Maciej did want to participate in YCF? I'm still not seeing him say that. Because I got the impression he only wanted the $20K (and I was okay with that, which is why I voted for Pinboard). Edit: I'm probably being overly pedantic here. I rally behind Maciej's contention that we are all adults and don't have to feel warm and fuzzy about each other to work together. I suppose that's his way of saying he was okay with participating in YCF. I seem to be in the group who read the Apply HN experiment as applying via the community, and entailing YCF participation. I keep getting the sense from Maciej and others that their reading was this was a contest to win $20K, with no expectation to participate in YCF. I'm probably in error here.
  - dsp1234 10y ago
    I'm still not seeing him say that "If the votes swing my way, I'd be happy to have a good-faith conversation with you."[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11441978 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11441978
    - bobwaycott 10y ago
      Man, I find it sad that 30 days ago, there seemed to be such a positively exuberant attitude. So, good-faith conversation occurred. Didn't go well obviously. Definitely seems to indicate that 30 days ago, there was an understanding that participating in YCF and winning the $20K wasn't simply a matter of votes swinging one way.
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lemming 10y ago

No, it's not: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11633517 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11633517 Kevin explained pretty clearly that it was his call, and Maciej disagreed with that.

bobwaycott 10y ago
Ah, okay. So, Maciej did want to participate in YCF? I'm still not seeing him say that. Because I got the impression he only wanted the $20K (and I was okay with that, which is why I voted for Pinboard). Edit: I'm probably being overly pedantic here. I rally behind Maciej's contention that we are all adults and don't have to feel warm and fuzzy about each other to work together. I suppose that's his way of saying he was okay with participating in YCF. I seem to be in the group who read the Apply HN experiment as applying via the community, and entailing YCF participation. I keep getting the sense from Maciej and others that their reading was this was a contest to win $20K, with no expectation to participate in YCF. I'm probably in error here.
- dsp1234 10y ago
  I'm still not seeing him say that "If the votes swing my way, I'd be happy to have a good-faith conversation with you."[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11441978 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11441978
  - bobwaycott 10y ago
    Man, I find it sad that 30 days ago, there seemed to be such a positively exuberant attitude. So, good-faith conversation occurred. Didn't go well obviously. Definitely seems to indicate that 30 days ago, there was an understanding that participating in YCF and winning the $20K wasn't simply a matter of votes swinging one way.

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