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Same thing happened to Reddit. It was kind of inevitable that it would happen here, where many HN users are likely also Reddit users. Disagree button makes no s

Same thing happened to Reddit. It was kind of inevitable that it would happen here, where many HN users are likely also Reddit users. Disagree button makes no sense when we already have a flag button.

hartpuff 10y ago
I agree; I hate the concept of downvoting. It's purely negative, which this site claims to discourage, it's completely mindless - why bother forming a cogent rebuttal to something you disagree with when you can lazily (and cowardly, without any risk of having your fragile beliefs challenged back) click a down arrow instead - and it disfavours minority (potentially interesting or controversial) points of view.
- ferrari8608 10y ago
  You might be interested in Voat.co. That is the basic mindset of its comparitively small user base. Downvoting is typically reserved for the truly shit posts. There is a lot of crude content, but the site makes it easy to filter that out if you so choose.
  - hartpuff 10y ago
    Thanks. I had vaguely heard of Voat before, but for some reason thought it was a script for self-hosted Reddit style sites. dang, I assume you meant stop bickering, but if you absolutely mean no more posts, sorry for this. It will probably be the last anyway. I'm just curious, since you (ferrari) and anyone else still reading this have more knowledge or experience about this, has any site, or even HN, ever tried making the usernames people who upvote and downvote publicly visible? I think people would put more thought into what they up or (especially) downvote if they could not 'hide', and their usernames were attached to it. Likewise, if voting had a 'cost', say, 1 karma to upvote and 1 or 2 karma to downvote.
    - jsprogrammer 10y ago
      HN does not publicly publish a downmod feed. I have asked multiple times to be linked to it, but I am always refused. A top poster with privilege, tptacek, claimed on a detached (by dang) thread that seeing who downmods me is "really none of [my] business"[0]. I would guess the same applies to you. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10955220 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10955220 [Still don't get how that comment was "off-topic"]

hartpuff 10y ago

I agree; I hate the concept of downvoting. It's purely negative, which this site claims to discourage, it's completely mindless - why bother forming a cogent rebuttal to something you disagree with when you can lazily (and cowardly, without any risk of having your fragile beliefs challenged back) click a down arrow instead - and it disfavours minority (potentially interesting or controversial) points of view.

ferrari8608 10y ago
You might be interested in Voat.co. That is the basic mindset of its comparitively small user base. Downvoting is typically reserved for the truly shit posts. There is a lot of crude content, but the site makes it easy to filter that out if you so choose.
- hartpuff 10y ago
  Thanks. I had vaguely heard of Voat before, but for some reason thought it was a script for self-hosted Reddit style sites. dang, I assume you meant stop bickering, but if you absolutely mean no more posts, sorry for this. It will probably be the last anyway. I'm just curious, since you (ferrari) and anyone else still reading this have more knowledge or experience about this, has any site, or even HN, ever tried making the usernames people who upvote and downvote publicly visible? I think people would put more thought into what they up or (especially) downvote if they could not 'hide', and their usernames were attached to it. Likewise, if voting had a 'cost', say, 1 karma to upvote and 1 or 2 karma to downvote.
  - jsprogrammer 10y ago
    HN does not publicly publish a downmod feed. I have asked multiple times to be linked to it, but I am always refused. A top poster with privilege, tptacek, claimed on a detached (by dang) thread that seeing who downmods me is "really none of [my] business"[0]. I would guess the same applies to you. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10955220 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10955220 [Still don't get how that comment was "off-topic"]