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Perhaps these tech blogger/entrepreneurs will get round to doing real work now. Streams of messages (twitter) and bug tracking (frog creek) is great n all, but

Perhaps these tech blogger/entrepreneurs will get round to doing real work now. Streams of messages (twitter) and bug tracking (frog creek) is great n all, but how about something with more than a handful of features?

phsr 17y ago
Because everyone should make a product with every feature imaginable! Why would you need anything else? Feature bloat doesn't hurt any product!
- marshallp 17y ago
  It'd be nice if the tech industry got innovative and solved real human problems - you know, like getting computers to do the work of humans. Reinventions of the telegraph (twitter/facebook) and operating system (apple/android/chromeos) is all i'm seeing these days.
  - bugs 17y ago
    As much as I hate twitter it most definitely is not a reinvention of the telegraph For the operating system snark I for one am glad the world isn't still using apple II's If you want the problems solved start working on it yourself it isn't other peoples burden.
    - marshallp 17y ago
      Twitter doesn't do my dishes, or cure cancer. It just lets people communicate, like did the telegraph 200 years ago. Operating system snark - beneath os x and android is unix, invented over 40 years ago. I do work on it myself, but i'm only one man. If the industry set its goals higher that would make a real difference, and put more money in its pocket.
      - bugs 17y ago
        I'm sorry that you see the world that way but not everyone can cure cancer or build robots and to be honest most don't want to. If you are using any operating system other than the unix invented 40 years ago then I think there is a reason for new operating systems and I stick with my opinion. An airplane is just based on some flying contraption people built 100 years ago but there is a reason we built new ones.
      - deleted 17y ago
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      - nostrademons 17y ago
        Your dishwasher does your dishes, and chemotherapy cures cancer. It'd just be nice if my dishwasher did my dishes better, and chemotherapy cured cancer better (and less painfully). Kinda like how Twitter lets people communicate better. New products are almost always a refinement of some existing product. The ones that aren't tend to elicit a big "Huh?" reaction from the marketplace.
        marshallp 17y ago
        I'm sure the tech industry, the self proclaimed vanguard of innovation, can do better than turn blogging into 140 characters and call it a day.
jrockway 17y ago
What the world really needs is more people whining on HN about how other people should spend their time. Famous people clearly don't know how to spend their own time most efficiently, so it's nice when random people on HN that nobody has ever heard of can plan peoples' lives for them. A great service.
- marshallp 17y ago
  Yeah that's right- we random people are jackasses, only the famous have got their shit together and produce valuable stuff. All hail twitter, and all the other technological wonders on techcrunch (that amount to a few lines of sql and jquery). Criticism is what makes science function and is what made the west great.
  - nollidge 17y ago
    This isn't criticism, it's fucking pointless whining.
    - marshallp 17y ago
      It's not pointless f-ing whining mr quick to swear, many of these famous people read hacker news, and might up their game if the level of discussion goes beyond circle jerking.
nfnaaron 17y ago
I wonder how many people are employed by Spolsky's company, and how long they've been employed? I wonder how many houses those salaries have bought, dry cleaning orders made and paid for, restaurant meals consumed, youth sports supported, and personal abilities grown? Now that he has time for some real work, that place is going to be a power house!
- marshallp 17y ago
  I wonder how many people have spent their hard earned cash on spolsky when they could have installed a free bug tracker. And the supposed geniuses he hires could be doing something really genius, like rocket science or brain surgery, and not worrying about pointers (after all magical garbage collection has been around a good few decades).
  - raganwald 17y ago
    I wonder how many people have spent their hard earned cash on spolsky when they could have installed a free bug tracker. Good question, it makes me wonder how many people (besides myself) have bought OS X systems when they could have bought free Linux?
    - marshallp 17y ago
      Probably a mixture of fanboyism and perceived advantages where few exist. You can install os x themes on linux and do steve jobs worship on the cheap.
bjplink 17y ago
Weird stance from someone who lists themselves as the "creator" of a Custom Google Search box in their HN profile... http://techielifeissues.blogspot.com http://techielifeissues.blogspot.com
- marshallp 17y ago
  Dude that search box solves a problem and was done with minimum of effort. Twitter could have been written in a few lines of appengine so it's not that different. (And it's not my life's work if that's what you're implying, took me 20 minutes).

phsr 17y ago

Because everyone should make a product with every feature imaginable! Why would you need anything else? Feature bloat doesn't hurt any product!

marshallp 17y ago
It'd be nice if the tech industry got innovative and solved real human problems - you know, like getting computers to do the work of humans. Reinventions of the telegraph (twitter/facebook) and operating system (apple/android/chromeos) is all i'm seeing these days.
- bugs 17y ago
  As much as I hate twitter it most definitely is not a reinvention of the telegraph For the operating system snark I for one am glad the world isn't still using apple II's If you want the problems solved start working on it yourself it isn't other peoples burden.
  - marshallp 17y ago
    Twitter doesn't do my dishes, or cure cancer. It just lets people communicate, like did the telegraph 200 years ago. Operating system snark - beneath os x and android is unix, invented over 40 years ago. I do work on it myself, but i'm only one man. If the industry set its goals higher that would make a real difference, and put more money in its pocket.
    - bugs 17y ago
      I'm sorry that you see the world that way but not everyone can cure cancer or build robots and to be honest most don't want to. If you are using any operating system other than the unix invented 40 years ago then I think there is a reason for new operating systems and I stick with my opinion. An airplane is just based on some flying contraption people built 100 years ago but there is a reason we built new ones.
    - deleted 17y ago
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    - nostrademons 17y ago
      Your dishwasher does your dishes, and chemotherapy cures cancer. It'd just be nice if my dishwasher did my dishes better, and chemotherapy cured cancer better (and less painfully). Kinda like how Twitter lets people communicate better. New products are almost always a refinement of some existing product. The ones that aren't tend to elicit a big "Huh?" reaction from the marketplace.
      - marshallp 17y ago
        I'm sure the tech industry, the self proclaimed vanguard of innovation, can do better than turn blogging into 140 characters and call it a day.

jrockway 17y ago

What the world really needs is more people whining on HN about how other people should spend their time. Famous people clearly don't know how to spend their own time most efficiently, so it's nice when random people on HN that nobody has ever heard of can plan peoples' lives for them. A great service.

marshallp 17y ago
Yeah that's right- we random people are jackasses, only the famous have got their shit together and produce valuable stuff. All hail twitter, and all the other technological wonders on techcrunch (that amount to a few lines of sql and jquery). Criticism is what makes science function and is what made the west great.
- nollidge 17y ago
  This isn't criticism, it's fucking pointless whining.
  - marshallp 17y ago
    It's not pointless f-ing whining mr quick to swear, many of these famous people read hacker news, and might up their game if the level of discussion goes beyond circle jerking.

nfnaaron 17y ago

I wonder how many people are employed by Spolsky's company, and how long they've been employed? I wonder how many houses those salaries have bought, dry cleaning orders made and paid for, restaurant meals consumed, youth sports supported, and personal abilities grown? Now that he has time for some real work, that place is going to be a power house!

marshallp 17y ago
I wonder how many people have spent their hard earned cash on spolsky when they could have installed a free bug tracker. And the supposed geniuses he hires could be doing something really genius, like rocket science or brain surgery, and not worrying about pointers (after all magical garbage collection has been around a good few decades).
- raganwald 17y ago
  I wonder how many people have spent their hard earned cash on spolsky when they could have installed a free bug tracker. Good question, it makes me wonder how many people (besides myself) have bought OS X systems when they could have bought free Linux?
  - marshallp 17y ago
    Probably a mixture of fanboyism and perceived advantages where few exist. You can install os x themes on linux and do steve jobs worship on the cheap.

bjplink 17y ago

Weird stance from someone who lists themselves as the "creator" of a Custom Google Search box in their HN profile... http://techielifeissues.blogspot.com http://techielifeissues.blogspot.com

marshallp 17y ago
Dude that search box solves a problem and was done with minimum of effort. Twitter could have been written in a few lines of appengine so it's not that different. (And it's not my life's work if that's what you're implying, took me 20 minutes).