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"Serverless" is the trendy term that the community is describing this particular architecture. I didn't invent the term. http://serverlessconf.io/ http://serve

by jimpick 10y ago

"Serverless" is the trendy term that the community is describing this particular architecture. I didn't invent the term. http://serverlessconf.io/ http://serverlessconf.io/ https://serverlesscode.com/ https://serverlesscode.com/ https://github.com/serverless/serverless https://github.com/serverless/serverless Of course there are servers out in the cloud somewhere. But you're not renting them 24/7. I'd love to experiment with a completely server-free P2P system, perhaps using WebRTC and WebTorrent (although in that case, there are still some servers involved).

stephenr 10y ago
"Serverless" is the trendy term that the community is describing this particular architecture Describing it extremely poorly, quite frankly. Also - this project is not just consuming resources from the totally not server based resources it inherently relies on, a key component of it runs on those totally not servers. After reading a little on the pages you linked to, "Server-less" is just a 'cute' way to say "our app is vendor-locked to AWS and their Lambda/API gateway/hosted DB/hosted storage/etc services" > Of course there are servers out in the cloud somewhere. Trying to explain a trendy mis-used term with another trendy mis-used term doest't help your case. Have you ever heard the phrase "there is no cloud, it's just someone else's computer"? > But you're not renting them 24/7. So, any application where the server-side component is scaled up-and-down dynamically, based on some kind of workload based schedule, is server-less?
- dgemm 10y ago
  Yes, "serverless" is a dumb term because we all know there is a server somewhere. ...who cares?
  - stephenr 10y ago
    ...people who put value on the meaning of words?
  - chriswarbo 10y ago
    Well, it's the first time I've come across this usage of the term. It's pretty misleading when there are serverless technologies around, e.g. P2P networks which don't make a client/server distinction, JS applications which can run from a local HTML file, etc.
- dexterdog 10y ago
  Yes, it's a service that uses its servers to run your code. Just like how most of us have somebody else run our email for us. There is still a mail server sitting out there somewhere masquerading for our domains, but we don't run mail servers. Now there is a service that is running my node code for me.
  - stephenr 10y ago
    No one is saying you can't use managed services. The problem is pretending (via a misleading name) that this is something it isn't. No one is claiming that email works without servers and clients.

by jimpick 10y ago

stephenr 10y ago

"Serverless" is the trendy term that the community is describing this particular architecture Describing it extremely poorly, quite frankly. Also - this project is not just consuming resources from the totally not server based resources it inherently relies on, a key component of it runs on those totally not servers. After reading a little on the pages you linked to, "Server-less" is just a 'cute' way to say "our app is vendor-locked to AWS and their Lambda/API gateway/hosted DB/hosted storage/etc services" > Of course there are servers out in the cloud somewhere. Trying to explain a trendy mis-used term with another trendy mis-used term doest't help your case. Have you ever heard the phrase "there is no cloud, it's just someone else's computer"? > But you're not renting them 24/7. So, any application where the server-side component is scaled up-and-down dynamically, based on some kind of workload based schedule, is server-less?

dgemm 10y ago
Yes, "serverless" is a dumb term because we all know there is a server somewhere. ...who cares?
- stephenr 10y ago
  ...people who put value on the meaning of words?
- chriswarbo 10y ago
  Well, it's the first time I've come across this usage of the term. It's pretty misleading when there are serverless technologies around, e.g. P2P networks which don't make a client/server distinction, JS applications which can run from a local HTML file, etc.
dexterdog 10y ago
Yes, it's a service that uses its servers to run your code. Just like how most of us have somebody else run our email for us. There is still a mail server sitting out there somewhere masquerading for our domains, but we don't run mail servers. Now there is a service that is running my node code for me.
- stephenr 10y ago
  No one is saying you can't use managed services. The problem is pretending (via a misleading name) that this is something it isn't. No one is claiming that email works without servers and clients.