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No one wants online voting to happen, but that's the big secret: No one is actually afraid it will be rigged. Its rigged NOW and that's the way Democrat and Rep
by progressive_dad 10y ago
No one wants online voting to happen, but that's the big secret: No one is actually afraid it will be rigged. Its rigged NOW and that's the way Democrat and Republican leaders LIKE it. They're terrified of massive demographic change.
When you talk to leadership in both parties the line is not, "Online voting isn't ready", its, "America isn't ready for online voting."
- pzuraq 10y agoOr because there are very good reasons to not have online voting, like vote buying and voter intimidation could become a thing again: 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_fraud https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_fraud 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gEz__sMVaY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gEz__sMVaY Not that I don't think there is way to get the best of both worlds. I'm sure there's a way for us to vote without having our votes be made public, so things like vote buying and voter intimidation can't happen, especially with blockchain technology. Or perhaps those factors won't matter as much any more, and are actually acceptable factors when compared to voter suppression through poorly placed and managed polling locations. Either way, it's not as simple as it may seem.
- dllthomas 10y agoHow are vote buying and voter intimidation enabled by online voting more than absentee voting?
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- progressive_dad 10y agoHow about make it private + opt-out (where opt out is used in conjunction with straw polls to determine whether an audit is necessary?)
- ddingus 10y agoHow can online voting be trustworthy without also making the vote personally identifiable?
- JoeAltmaier 10y agoBy encryption, authenticity tests and anonymous one-way hashing. One can know that a vote is by a legitimate voter, and simultaneously not know which voter it was.
- ddingus 10y agoHow does the voter understand the representation of the vote matches their intent? Any reading links to share?
- JoeAltmaier 10y agoDeep subject. They can sign their vote I suppose?
- ddingus 10y agoThis is why e voting does not yet make sense. If we make votes personally identifiable, we can resolve this problem. FWIW
- progressive_dad 10y agoOpt out (with opt outs and straw polls used to determine if an audit is necessary). I hear this again and again and again and its utter bullshit. You don't need to solve auditing to solve online voting. They are two separate issues and I guarantee once you HAVE online voting there will be no shortage of solutions to audit it.
- ddingus 10y agoNo, this is a basic trust issue. More in a bit...