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> Are England supporters chanting after a soccer match aggro-patriotic douchebags? Aggro-patriotic douchebaggery isn't exactly unheard of when it comes to foot
by usrusr 11y ago
> Are England supporters chanting after a soccer match aggro-patriotic douchebags?
Aggro-patriotic douchebaggery isn't exactly unheard of when it comes to football stadiums. For some it's a feature, for most others it's a very well known bug.
Also, you seem to have completely missed his finer point: a nuanced distinction between those who start and those who just sing along because they are in the mood for making noise, any noise.
PS: of all the stadium noises, the "god save the queen" of England supporters is by far the most enjoyable (and I say that as a german)
- simonh 11y ago> you seem to have completely missed his finer point That's because I don't think there is a finer point. If the only way a chant like that could happen is if it's started by aggro-patriotic douchebags, which specifically was the contention, then the chanting only exists as a result of aggro-patriotic douchebaggery. That's a slur that taints everyone involved in it, and I don't accept that at all.
- deanCommie 11y agoI should not have used that term to diminish my point, I regret that. My point was that Americans can claim all day and all night that "U-S-A" chants are not meant to insult or condescend to any other country. But ask around and I can tell you most other countries find it INCREDIBLY uncomfortable. Sporting events are a completely appropriate venue for the release of testosterone and patriotism. The very nature of the event is a competition between Country X and Country Y. I don't believe SpaceX's mission is to establish American dominance over other nations. Elon Musk spends a lot of time discussing his lofty aspirations for the future of humanity on Mars, about becoming a multi-planetary species, etc.
- simonh 11y agoWell I'm not a country, only a citizen of one, so maybe my opinion doesn't count as much weight as theirs.