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>Most likely having sex with a prostitute is not your spouse That's my point. Christianity has long been very pro-sex, just with your spouse. As I said, you

>Most likely having sex with a prostitute is not your spouse That's my point. Christianity has long been very pro-sex, just with your spouse. As I said, you could be sued for not having sex with your spouse. >Also, as someone who was raised Catholic it was very clear. If you're not doing it to procreate you are sinning. That is totally incorrect. You aren't allowed to prevent conception, you need to "let god decide". But there's nothing suggesting the purpose of sex must be procreation. Again, there's a spiritual and emotional side of sex that is seen as vital.

throwaway2016a 10y ago
That's a little bit of a technically. Saying you have to go all the way, so to speak, and you can't do anything to prevent it is the same as saying it has to be for that purpose. As a mental exercise, say every time you had sex you had to pull the trigger on a revolver that has a bullet in only one barrel. Sure there is a 5/6 chance you will be fine but who in their right mind would take that? Someone can say it has an emotional aspect all they want (and they do, and it's true) but that doesn't stop the other part from being true too. Note: I have a child and I love her more than anything. Buy saying you can't do anything to prevent pregnancy and saying the only way you can have sex if there is a chance you procreate is the same thing (unless your physically incapable).
- MustardTiger 10y ago
  >Saying you have to go all the way, so to speak, and you can't do anything to prevent it is the same as saying it has to be for that purpose. No it is not. At all. Saying you can't barf up your food after you eat it is not the same as saying you can only eat solely for the purpose of nourishment. You can still eat for taste and pleasure. You just can't prevent yourself from getting the nourishment that goes with it. >Buy saying you can't do anything to prevent pregnancy and saying the only way you can have sex if there is a chance you procreate is the same thing Which has nothing to do with the subject. You are confusing intent with outcome.
  - throwaway2016a 10y ago
    I'm going to have to back away from this discussion. There is definitely more I can say but you and I are clearly on different pages and I do not wish to color my Hacker News account with a religious debate. Unless it is vim vs emacs :)

throwaway2016a 10y ago

That's a little bit of a technically. Saying you have to go all the way, so to speak, and you can't do anything to prevent it is the same as saying it has to be for that purpose. As a mental exercise, say every time you had sex you had to pull the trigger on a revolver that has a bullet in only one barrel. Sure there is a 5/6 chance you will be fine but who in their right mind would take that? Someone can say it has an emotional aspect all they want (and they do, and it's true) but that doesn't stop the other part from being true too. Note: I have a child and I love her more than anything. Buy saying you can't do anything to prevent pregnancy and saying the only way you can have sex if there is a chance you procreate is the same thing (unless your physically incapable).

MustardTiger 10y ago
>Saying you have to go all the way, so to speak, and you can't do anything to prevent it is the same as saying it has to be for that purpose. No it is not. At all. Saying you can't barf up your food after you eat it is not the same as saying you can only eat solely for the purpose of nourishment. You can still eat for taste and pleasure. You just can't prevent yourself from getting the nourishment that goes with it. >Buy saying you can't do anything to prevent pregnancy and saying the only way you can have sex if there is a chance you procreate is the same thing Which has nothing to do with the subject. You are confusing intent with outcome.
- throwaway2016a 10y ago
  I'm going to have to back away from this discussion. There is definitely more I can say but you and I are clearly on different pages and I do not wish to color my Hacker News account with a religious debate. Unless it is vim vs emacs :)