>what I'm asking about are efforts to curtail illegal immigration and deport existing illegal immigrants? To the extends that laws around H1Bs aren't working, s

>what I'm asking about are efforts to curtail illegal immigration and deport existing illegal immigrants? To the extends that laws around H1Bs aren't working, surely the laws around illegal immigration are working even poorer? No I don't advocate anarchy, I advocate we enforce our border as any state does, in fact its one of the few things I actually think the state is suppose to do. If we cut out just a small fraction of all the stuff the state does which I do not think it is suppose to do this job would be done, and done well and would allow only higher quality individuals into our cities and communities (e.g. not drug dealers and criminals). >The population of illegal immigrants is many time higher than the population of H1Bs. Why does this quantity matter in the context of H1Bs, you are confusing two different issues. In one case the law is not enforced, that clearly just needs to be dealt with. H1Bs on the other hand is a legal system which requires refinement at the legislative level, or litigation.