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i am just reading this from a n95 quite pleasantly and replying with one hand which i an not sure you can do with iphone. Can anyone predict how much years is

by eusman 19y ago

i am just reading this from a n95 quite pleasantly and replying with one hand which i an not sure you can do with iphone. Can anyone predict how much years is several as mentioned in an earlier post that it will outnumber? Of course its a natural direction and i dont understand why so much credit for the iphone

vlad 19y ago
It's not about which phone had features X, Y, and Z first. The iPhone is: known to focus on usability; made by Apple; has iTunes, a big screen, a great screen, a wide screen; has a PDA brother -- the iTouch; runs a version of a real operating system; and is made by the manufacturer of the most popular portable digital music players of each of the last 7 years or so. Finally, Apple is not a phone manufacturer but a designer of usable things -- people want to buy something that is made by Apple, and not a phone company. The resulting popularity, promise of an SDK, a commitment to the product line, and an exciting bridge of software and hardware gets developers on board. This gets the iPhone to the point where all of a sudden, it doesn't matter who created it--Microsoft, McDonalds, or Staples--or exactly what it's capable of: everyone else is using it, which means it's now a "standard", and a good enough reason to make that your next phone.
- eusman 19y ago
  Actually n95 is in the hands of more than 2 million people compared to iphone that its in half of these people. And by saying n95 I was reffering mostly to S60 Version 3 platform, which is used on more phones than N95, which means they have the same browser. iPhone may be appealing, but overall doesnt mean that is the only way to surf the mobile web. The browsing capabilities in many phones are really worthwhile. It's obvious this is an iPhone praising story. "popular" it's a vogue word, doesn't mean anything if you don't say location. In Europe, phones come free or at loyaltee-fee with connection packets, which make it more accesible for people to change their phones easier. So, you stuck with a "popular" iPhone easier. "real operating system" ? sorry, but it rings to my ears the 3-in-1 iPhone pre-launch Steve Jobs speech What real means anyway? Multitasking with IPv6, multimedia capabilities and UTF-16 support that is possible to write applications for? Symbian answers to these. "standard and good enough..." Well, you should check your numbers with Symbian penetration. Nokia is already working on feel-touch UI which will make touching surface feel like a keyboard when necessary.
  - gojomo 19y ago
    "Actually n95 is in the hands of more than 2 million people compared to iphone that its in half of these people." Actually, iPhone sales totalled 4 million as of last month. So it is the n95/s60v3 that, if your 2 million number is correct, is in half the number of hands.
    - eusman 19y ago
      There were nearly 85 million devices based on S60 in 2006. Today there are 20 different phones based on S60 3rd edition. "18.8 million converged devices (S60) shipped in Q4 compared to 11.1 this time last year * Over 11 million Nseries devices and over 2 million Eseries devices were sold in Q4 * Market share in North America dropped to 5.1% while every other region except China experienced double digit" http://www.nokia.com/results/results2007Q4e.pdf http://www.nokia.com/results/results2007Q4e.pdf
inovica 19y ago
Just wondering if you've ever used an iPhone? I'm not an Apple fan-boy, but what I am is someone that likes things that work well. I had an n95, but it sucks in comparison to the iPhone. What these numbers show is that the iPhone is EASY to browse the web in comparison to every other phone out there - the proof is in the stats. I personally use my iPhone considerably whilst out for googling or for the maps. Try it, you'll not be so negative afterwards
- eusman 19y ago
  i am not against the iphone. I was impressed too when i saw it. But all the fuss seems το come from the web browsing rendering cabapilities which as you know are equal το s60 and they always act like they invented the web or the multitouch tech which they bought actually. Of course hands up for the UI. Even a nokia official said we clone when something is innovative refering to the ui

by eusman 19y ago

vlad 19y ago

It's not about which phone had features X, Y, and Z first. The iPhone is: known to focus on usability; made by Apple; has iTunes, a big screen, a great screen, a wide screen; has a PDA brother -- the iTouch; runs a version of a real operating system; and is made by the manufacturer of the most popular portable digital music players of each of the last 7 years or so. Finally, Apple is not a phone manufacturer but a designer of usable things -- people want to buy something that is made by Apple, and not a phone company. The resulting popularity, promise of an SDK, a commitment to the product line, and an exciting bridge of software and hardware gets developers on board. This gets the iPhone to the point where all of a sudden, it doesn't matter who created it--Microsoft, McDonalds, or Staples--or exactly what it's capable of: everyone else is using it, which means it's now a "standard", and a good enough reason to make that your next phone.

eusman 19y ago
Actually n95 is in the hands of more than 2 million people compared to iphone that its in half of these people. And by saying n95 I was reffering mostly to S60 Version 3 platform, which is used on more phones than N95, which means they have the same browser. iPhone may be appealing, but overall doesnt mean that is the only way to surf the mobile web. The browsing capabilities in many phones are really worthwhile. It's obvious this is an iPhone praising story. "popular" it's a vogue word, doesn't mean anything if you don't say location. In Europe, phones come free or at loyaltee-fee with connection packets, which make it more accesible for people to change their phones easier. So, you stuck with a "popular" iPhone easier. "real operating system" ? sorry, but it rings to my ears the 3-in-1 iPhone pre-launch Steve Jobs speech What real means anyway? Multitasking with IPv6, multimedia capabilities and UTF-16 support that is possible to write applications for? Symbian answers to these. "standard and good enough..." Well, you should check your numbers with Symbian penetration. Nokia is already working on feel-touch UI which will make touching surface feel like a keyboard when necessary.
- gojomo 19y ago
  "Actually n95 is in the hands of more than 2 million people compared to iphone that its in half of these people." Actually, iPhone sales totalled 4 million as of last month. So it is the n95/s60v3 that, if your 2 million number is correct, is in half the number of hands.
  - eusman 19y ago
    There were nearly 85 million devices based on S60 in 2006. Today there are 20 different phones based on S60 3rd edition. "18.8 million converged devices (S60) shipped in Q4 compared to 11.1 this time last year * Over 11 million Nseries devices and over 2 million Eseries devices were sold in Q4 * Market share in North America dropped to 5.1% while every other region except China experienced double digit" http://www.nokia.com/results/results2007Q4e.pdf http://www.nokia.com/results/results2007Q4e.pdf

inovica 19y ago

Just wondering if you've ever used an iPhone? I'm not an Apple fan-boy, but what I am is someone that likes things that work well. I had an n95, but it sucks in comparison to the iPhone. What these numbers show is that the iPhone is EASY to browse the web in comparison to every other phone out there - the proof is in the stats. I personally use my iPhone considerably whilst out for googling or for the maps. Try it, you'll not be so negative afterwards

eusman 19y ago
i am not against the iphone. I was impressed too when i saw it. But all the fuss seems το come from the web browsing rendering cabapilities which as you know are equal το s60 and they always act like they invented the web or the multitouch tech which they bought actually. Of course hands up for the UI. Even a nokia official said we clone when something is innovative refering to the ui