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You're being entirely dogmatic; nicotine is hardly bad for you at all on its own. The consensus is that it probably doesn't have any role in causing cancer, alt
by adrusi 10y ago
You're being entirely dogmatic; nicotine is hardly bad for you at all on its own. The consensus is that it probably doesn't have any role in causing cancer, although it might accelerate an existing metastasized cancer. There are some adverse effects on developing fetuses, but those are relatively minor even when the mother is smoking a pack a day.
Consuming nicotine yourself is somewhat bad for your health, and its irresponsible for a pregnant woman to smoke it because it will hurt their child. But in the doses that can be achieved through secondhand consumption are so terribly low as to be totally negligible. It's absolutely ridiculous to worry about being around someone who's vaping.
Second hand smoke is a problem not because of nicotine, its a problem because of other chemicals in smoke, and its only actually harmful if you live or work with a smoker. You have to be exposed to it constantly and live in an environment where the smoke has penetrated every porous object and seeps into your clothes and your food and your water.
And your comment about nicotine vapor being absorbed through skin is misleading, because you suggest that cigarette smoke isn't absorbed through the skin and that there's a significant amount absorbed through the skin relative to the amount inhaled. Perhaps the root of your confusion is that the nicotine/glycol liquid solution can be absorbed through the skin and spilling it on yourself is enough to get quite a high dose of nicotine if you don't quickly wash it off. Before ecigarette fluids standardized on glycol, they used other solvents which allowed faster absorption through skin, which made it realistic to give yourself lethal nicotine poisoning by spilling it on yourself.
If you want to avoid the ecig cloud for the sake of avoiding the smell, I can't disagree with you, and I'd support legislation prohibiting vaping in public indoor spaces.
Just please stop making up stupid shit. It is inconceivable that your health would be influenced by spending time in a public space with someone vaping. It would be even more absurd to conceive of developing an addiction that way.
- snuxoll 10y agoIt is certainly not absurd to not like being bombarded with a cloud of smoke or vapor, at the very least. The vast majority of people who use e-cigs follow the same etiquette as smokers, but there's always asshats in society who care about nobody but themselves.
- pessimizer 10y agoI don't drive; do you?
- snuxoll 10y agoNot sure how driving is relevant, but yes, I do on occasion drive (though usually it's the wife behind the wheel). Unfortunately I do not live in a public transit friendly or walkable city.
- sandworm101 10y ago"Just please stop making up stupid shit." Lol. I was going to reply, then I came to that.
- cmdrfred 10y ago> nicotine is hardly bad for you at all on its own. Incorrect. It is also used as a pesticide and is highly poisonous to humans.[0] You don't get to make that decision for me, do whatever you want in your own home but on public property cut it out with the bullshit. If you can't go a few hours with that drug maybe you need to reevaluate your life. "In December 2002, approximately 250 lbs. of ground beef was adulterated with nicotine sulfate by a supermarket employee and subsequently sold to the public. Soon afterward, reports of illness associated with ground beef purchased at a single store were identified. Authorities suspected the ground beef was tainted with Black Leaf 40, a banned pesticide containing approximately 40% nicotine as nicotine sulfate" [0] http://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/sis/search/a?dbs+hsdb:@term+@DOCNO+805 http://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/sis/search/a?dbs+hsdb:@ter...
- adrusi 10y agoNicotine is deadly in high doses, and a "high dose" of nicotine is pretty small. If you extracted all the nicotine from an average cigarette and took it intravenously, I imagine that would be enough to kill an average person. But the dose makes the poison and nobody consumes nicotine in such high doses, and you can't accidentally overdose through any of the ways that people intentionally consume it, because it makes you extremely nauseous before it gets dangerous. I don't consume any nicotine containing products, though, and I have never had a nicotine addiction. That's just an assumption you jumped to.