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Gave up a day job Now what? – Report number 0 – Part 2

17 points by kreci 17y ago

patio11 17y ago
Best of luck to you! If I can make one suggestion: move up the value chain from affiliate and site flipper. (Moving up the value chain means you offer more complicated and valuable services of the level of the people who were previously buying your services. For example, right now you're doing something fairly unsophisticated -- making "websites" -- on the behalf of affiliates who are not very sophisticated. One step up the value chain is making websites for yourself and being an affiliate. Another possible step after that is selling whatever the affiliate is marketing, for yourself. It is not unusual on the Internet to have chains which go half a dozen or a dozen stages deep, and your competitive position gets better for each stage you climb out of.) The kind of people who buy websites for less than $1,000 are disproportionately going to be very, very difficult clients for you to work with. If you're capable of operating a website in a commercial or semi-commercial niche, just go ahead and do that -- you'll make far more money and won't have to spend time grinding out more websites to flip every month. This requires transitioning your focus from "I make websites!" to "I have a business which happens to be based on the Internet." That has been a rather jarring transition for a lot of newer SEOs and software developers I've known in my day. Best of luck with it. Incidentally, just because you are from Eastern Europe does not mean you need to charge your customers cheap prices. Charge based on the value you provide them. You are able to live on probably a third of what I can, but if you and I are able to do the same thing for some American customer (who is an ocean away from either of us), then we're able to charge the same amount of money. You can just enjoy it three times as much.
- kreci 17y ago
  Wow… Really amazing comment patio. Thank you for it. You are right about chains. But like for now just building websites is a thing I know best. On each website I build I learn more and next website I am building is getting more traffic and better SEO in shorter times. I will be trying to make money on being an affiliate and maybe sell my own stuff sooner or later. But like for now I make really little on my websites this way. Not enough to make a living from it. When I sell website I get quite big flow of the money that is ok. If I will learn enough I will be keeping the best websites for myself. But I just starting my business and still need money for a living. If you follow my blog I will be telling about it (flipping to affiliate earnings) more in my future reports. Thanks again for a great comment.
maxklein 17y ago
$1000 is not hard to beat at all. I used to work on rent a coder back in the day and I made $2000 easily with two weeks of dedicated work. I would suggest also building some easy web based tools that does something for which there is a clear market - for example making a picture polaroid, or diagnosing some disease. You will make some amount of money every day. See my post about this: http://blog.cubeofm.com/how-to-become-rich-even-if-nobody-is-followin http://blog.cubeofm.com/how-to-become-rich-even-if-nobody-is... Alternatively, just go for shareware software. It's really really easy to make $500 a day on a piece of software if you are willing to do the manual labour of keeping it updated across the download sites.
- kreci 17y ago
  thanks Max for really valuable comment - I will read you article and consider using some of your excellent tips
Slzr 17y ago
I would set up my mind: I am going to make it, dont know how, when, but my life goal will be to make it, until I do everything else its second

17 points by kreci 17y ago

Best of luck to you! If I can make one suggestion: move up the value chain from affiliate and site flipper. (Moving up the value chain means you offer more complicated and valuable services of the level of the people who were previously buying your services. For example, right now you're doing something fairly unsophisticated -- making "websites" -- on the behalf of affiliates who are not very sophisticated. One step up the value chain is making websites for yourself and being an affiliate. Another possible step after that is selling whatever the affiliate is marketing, for yourself. It is not unusual on the Internet to have chains which go half a dozen or a dozen stages deep, and your competitive position gets better for each stage you climb out of.) The kind of people who buy websites for less than $1,000 are disproportionately going to be very, very difficult clients for you to work with. If you're capable of operating a website in a commercial or semi-commercial niche, just go ahead and do that -- you'll make far more money and won't have to spend time grinding out more websites to flip every month. This requires transitioning your focus from "I make websites!" to "I have a business which happens to be based on the Internet." That has been a rather jarring transition for a lot of newer SEOs and software developers I've known in my day. Best of luck with it. Incidentally, just because you are from Eastern Europe does not mean you need to charge your customers cheap prices. Charge based on the value you provide them. You are able to live on probably a third of what I can, but if you and I are able to do the same thing for some American customer (who is an ocean away from either of us), then we're able to charge the same amount of money. You can just enjoy it three times as much.

kreci 17y ago
Wow… Really amazing comment patio. Thank you for it. You are right about chains. But like for now just building websites is a thing I know best. On each website I build I learn more and next website I am building is getting more traffic and better SEO in shorter times. I will be trying to make money on being an affiliate and maybe sell my own stuff sooner or later. But like for now I make really little on my websites this way. Not enough to make a living from it. When I sell website I get quite big flow of the money that is ok. If I will learn enough I will be keeping the best websites for myself. But I just starting my business and still need money for a living. If you follow my blog I will be telling about it (flipping to affiliate earnings) more in my future reports. Thanks again for a great comment.

maxklein 17y ago

$1000 is not hard to beat at all. I used to work on rent a coder back in the day and I made $2000 easily with two weeks of dedicated work. I would suggest also building some easy web based tools that does something for which there is a clear market - for example making a picture polaroid, or diagnosing some disease. You will make some amount of money every day. See my post about this: http://blog.cubeofm.com/how-to-become-rich-even-if-nobody-is-followin http://blog.cubeofm.com/how-to-become-rich-even-if-nobody-is... Alternatively, just go for shareware software. It's really really easy to make $500 a day on a piece of software if you are willing to do the manual labour of keeping it updated across the download sites.

kreci 17y ago
thanks Max for really valuable comment - I will read you article and consider using some of your excellent tips

Slzr 17y ago

I would set up my mind: I am going to make it, dont know how, when, but my life goal will be to make it, until I do everything else its second