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Can anyone fill me in as to whether or not this will apply to any 'e-juice' products that do not contain nicotine? I think the 'competitive vape' scene use nic

Can anyone fill me in as to whether or not this will apply to any 'e-juice' products that do not contain nicotine? I think the 'competitive vape' scene use nicotine-free substances, so I'm aware they exist. But that whole 'different formulations' thing sounds very troublesome, even on the basic level? Many thanks in advance to any who might have closer tabs on this subject.

loeg 11y ago
In "VNP," the N stands for Nicotine.
tmacro 11y ago
The general presumption is no it wouldn't effect ejuice containing no nicotine. The general formula for ejuice is vegetable glycerin, propylene glycol, flavor extracts, and liquid nicotine based in PG. Sine all these ingredients are generally available without regulation ( minus nicotine ) I feel that I would be hard to claim that these constitute a tobacco product.
- 6stringmerc 11y ago
  Thank you very much for the distinctions. This bodes well for a non-consumption idea I had somewhat based on the existing technology, though with no intention of including nicotine in the platform. I'll have to see what the local shops plan on doing to get a first-hand feel for potential supplier issues. Again, very much appreciate the shared perspective.
- SmirkingRevenge 11y ago
  Interesting, sounds like a potential loophole. The juice makers could just sell the vape juice without any nicotine, which can be added later, by the consumer, or at your favorite shop I'm sure. When I used to vape, the shopkeepers would sometimes do that, if they were out of a flavor at my nicotine level.
roel_v 11y ago
"I think the 'competitive vape' scene use nicotine-free substances" This is probably a ridiculous question, but you don't mean that there are vaping competitions, do you?
- 6stringmerc 11y ago
  Actually I do mean there are vaping competitions hehe. They call themselves 'cloud chasers' and they put on an event a few months ago at a local, rather large entertainment venue in Deep Ellum (The Bomb Factory). I've been wanting to use some of their findings and techniques in an offshoot project, so their interest, while not my interest, is useful.
  - roel_v 11y ago
    So what's the goal in such a competition? Produce a certain volume of smoke asap? (I never cease to be amazed by what people spend their spare time on)
    - 6stringmerc 11y ago
      I think they set up a measuring scale and try to judge the size and distance of the released vapor cloud. They're...large. I couldn't imagine a person actually making such a cloud in a normal place, but my idea did come from seeing a person use a vape a couple years ago in a bar, nearly across the room, and the scent carried all the way to me. It was cotton candy. Quite interesting sub-culture over that direction hehe.

loeg 11y ago

In "VNP," the N stands for Nicotine.

tmacro 11y ago

The general presumption is no it wouldn't effect ejuice containing no nicotine. The general formula for ejuice is vegetable glycerin, propylene glycol, flavor extracts, and liquid nicotine based in PG. Sine all these ingredients are generally available without regulation ( minus nicotine ) I feel that I would be hard to claim that these constitute a tobacco product.

6stringmerc 11y ago
Thank you very much for the distinctions. This bodes well for a non-consumption idea I had somewhat based on the existing technology, though with no intention of including nicotine in the platform. I'll have to see what the local shops plan on doing to get a first-hand feel for potential supplier issues. Again, very much appreciate the shared perspective.
SmirkingRevenge 11y ago
Interesting, sounds like a potential loophole. The juice makers could just sell the vape juice without any nicotine, which can be added later, by the consumer, or at your favorite shop I'm sure. When I used to vape, the shopkeepers would sometimes do that, if they were out of a flavor at my nicotine level.

roel_v 11y ago

"I think the 'competitive vape' scene use nicotine-free substances" This is probably a ridiculous question, but you don't mean that there are vaping competitions, do you?

6stringmerc 11y ago
Actually I do mean there are vaping competitions hehe. They call themselves 'cloud chasers' and they put on an event a few months ago at a local, rather large entertainment venue in Deep Ellum (The Bomb Factory). I've been wanting to use some of their findings and techniques in an offshoot project, so their interest, while not my interest, is useful.
- roel_v 11y ago
  So what's the goal in such a competition? Produce a certain volume of smoke asap? (I never cease to be amazed by what people spend their spare time on)
  - 6stringmerc 11y ago
    I think they set up a measuring scale and try to judge the size and distance of the released vapor cloud. They're...large. I couldn't imagine a person actually making such a cloud in a normal place, but my idea did come from seeing a person use a vape a couple years ago in a bar, nearly across the room, and the scent carried all the way to me. It was cotton candy. Quite interesting sub-culture over that direction hehe.