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This reporter is credulous, because the Guardian is just awful. "Barry Chang barely made it into the lobby when Apple’s security team surrounded and escorted h

This reporter is credulous, because the Guardian is just awful. "Barry Chang barely made it into the lobby when Apple’s security team surrounded and escorted him off the property. “They said ‘you cannot come in, you’re not invited’. After that I left and have not gone back,” said an exasperated Chang." Uh huh. Yeah I bet it happened just like that. What buffoon of a reporter prints a politician's self-serving and incredible story as plain fact? If you buy this story, I've got a pile of Trump steaks and a bottle of hot sauce from Hillary's purse to sell you. So, Barry takes a couple steps into the lobby, and the security just leaps out from behind a plant and says, "Whoever you are, you're not invited. You cannot come in." Sure. Was it the main public entrance lobby or like did he walk in behind someone else into an office building? If he wanted to talk to a higher-up, had he made an appointment? Is it that crazy that local politicians can't just walk into corporations without making an appointment and say, "I want to talk to the man in charge! Several thousand people voted for me!" Did a whole "team" really "surround" him? He makes it sound like it was a hostage situation.

pluckytree 10y ago
What happened was he tried to get in and the one security guard told him he dad to be escorted by an employee, just as the sign said. Hundreds of people do this every day, thinking they will be able to see the campus on the inside. The only people that get escorted out are protestors who storm the lobby.
- wutbrodo 10y ago
  > Hundreds of people do this every day, thinking they will be able to see the campus on the inside. During my time at Google, I had multiple people come up to me and ask me from where they could catch a guided tour of the campus. I always felt bad telling them there was none...
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tptacek 10y ago
Nit: Hillary Clinton is apparently an authentic fiend for hot sauce; she has a giant collection of them, takes it with her everywhere, and puts it on everything, including foods where it's kind of gross to eat with hot sauce.
- lewis500 10y ago
  lol. okay, today i learned. poor hillary.
samstave 10y ago
How much for the hot-sauce.
eeeeeeeeeeeee 10y ago
Did you also notice that the way the Guardian wrote that paragraph makes it sound like Apple turned away the mayor, when in fact he was not the mayor at the time he went to Apple unannounced. I cannot read that any other way except to intentionally mislead people for a greater impact on the story. I really hate this kind of journalism. "The last time the mayor of Cupertino walked into Apple" Yes, he is the current mayor since Dec 2015, but he was not when he "walked in to Apple." From the article: "“They said ‘you cannot come in, you’re not invited’. After that I left and have not gone back,” said an exasperated Chang, who’s been mayor since December 2015 and had approached the computing firm when he was serving on the city council three years ago." He was on city council, he was not the mayor, when he went to Apple unannounced and was turned away. And I'm glad Apple turned him away -- why does he think he can show up anywhere unannounced just because of his title, be that mayor or city council member? This is on top of this entire bullshit article, which as others have pointed out, says nothing about actual local/state taxes that Apple is not paying (because i'm sure they're probably in compliance). This article really comes down to "Mayor says life isn't fair, wants reparations."
- kafkaesq 10y ago
  I cannot read that any other way except to intentionally mislead people for a greater impact on the story. It was a bit careless on their part. Most likely the author simply didn't know when the uninvited visit occurred didn't think to double check. In general I don't see much benefit in imputing malicious motives to others, when far simpler explanations will suffice.
  - wutbrodo 10y ago
    This would be a reasonable approach if we weren't talking about a piece of published journalism. That makes it both more unlikely that it was accidental (due to a higher bar of fact-checking), and more blameworthy even if it was due to negligence.
    - kafkaesq 10y ago
      What can I say? If you're looking for bad actors and intentional wrongdoers behind every mishap in the world... then that's the kind of world you'll end up living in.
lewis500 10y ago
Correction: there is evidence that Hillary is a big fan of hot sauce. No word yet on whether and how often it is in her bag. http://time.com/4297996/hillary-clinton-hot-sauce/ http://time.com/4297996/hillary-clinton-hot-sauce/

pluckytree 10y ago

What happened was he tried to get in and the one security guard told him he dad to be escorted by an employee, just as the sign said. Hundreds of people do this every day, thinking they will be able to see the campus on the inside. The only people that get escorted out are protestors who storm the lobby.

wutbrodo 10y ago
> Hundreds of people do this every day, thinking they will be able to see the campus on the inside. During my time at Google, I had multiple people come up to me and ask me from where they could catch a guided tour of the campus. I always felt bad telling them there was none...

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tptacek 10y ago

Nit: Hillary Clinton is apparently an authentic fiend for hot sauce; she has a giant collection of them, takes it with her everywhere, and puts it on everything, including foods where it's kind of gross to eat with hot sauce.

lewis500 10y ago
lol. okay, today i learned. poor hillary.

samstave 10y ago

How much for the hot-sauce.

eeeeeeeeeeeee 10y ago

Did you also notice that the way the Guardian wrote that paragraph makes it sound like Apple turned away the mayor, when in fact he was not the mayor at the time he went to Apple unannounced. I cannot read that any other way except to intentionally mislead people for a greater impact on the story. I really hate this kind of journalism. "The last time the mayor of Cupertino walked into Apple" Yes, he is the current mayor since Dec 2015, but he was not when he "walked in to Apple." From the article: "“They said ‘you cannot come in, you’re not invited’. After that I left and have not gone back,” said an exasperated Chang, who’s been mayor since December 2015 and had approached the computing firm when he was serving on the city council three years ago." He was on city council, he was not the mayor, when he went to Apple unannounced and was turned away. And I'm glad Apple turned him away -- why does he think he can show up anywhere unannounced just because of his title, be that mayor or city council member? This is on top of this entire bullshit article, which as others have pointed out, says nothing about actual local/state taxes that Apple is not paying (because i'm sure they're probably in compliance). This article really comes down to "Mayor says life isn't fair, wants reparations."

kafkaesq 10y ago
I cannot read that any other way except to intentionally mislead people for a greater impact on the story. It was a bit careless on their part. Most likely the author simply didn't know when the uninvited visit occurred didn't think to double check. In general I don't see much benefit in imputing malicious motives to others, when far simpler explanations will suffice.
- wutbrodo 10y ago
  This would be a reasonable approach if we weren't talking about a piece of published journalism. That makes it both more unlikely that it was accidental (due to a higher bar of fact-checking), and more blameworthy even if it was due to negligence.
  - kafkaesq 10y ago
    What can I say? If you're looking for bad actors and intentional wrongdoers behind every mishap in the world... then that's the kind of world you'll end up living in.

lewis500 10y ago

Correction: there is evidence that Hillary is a big fan of hot sauce. No word yet on whether and how often it is in her bag. http://time.com/4297996/hillary-clinton-hot-sauce/ http://time.com/4297996/hillary-clinton-hot-sauce/