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One thing that gives me a little pause and makes me think maybe he is telling the truth (even though all other evidence and logic says he's a fraud) is that the

by ebbv 10y ago

One thing that gives me a little pause and makes me think maybe he is telling the truth (even though all other evidence and logic says he's a fraud) is that the real Satoshi has not put out a statement calling this guy out as a fraud. When the Dorian Nakamoto stuff happened the real Satoshi put out a statement saying he's not Dorian. That wasn't that long ago. If he did that you'd think he'd step up and say he's not Craig Wright either. But maybe he did the previous one because he felt Dorian was being victimized whereas Craig Wright has made a mess of his own design. It's hard to say for sure.

ramblerman 10y ago
It's not that unlikely that satoshi is dead given the sudden silence. Someone like Craig Wright might have gambled on that fact.
kbart 10y ago
I'm sure the goal of such step is exactly this -- to leave some room for doubt. The conman was moved in a corner during last few days, it was the only logical step left. It's only few commands to prove that you really poses the original key, no need for drama, screenshots and buggy scripts.
gamache 10y ago
> When the Dorian Nakamoto stuff happened the real Satoshi put out a statement saying he's not Dorian. That wasn't that long ago. My read on that is that Satoshi felt sorry for the hapless Japanese-American guy with tech media showing up at his house. In contrast, Craig Wright asked for this.
- celticninja 10y ago
  Also the old guy was going to have to prove a negative. Can't be done.
  - lgas 10y ago
    Let's see some proof that it can't be done.
- ebbv 10y ago
  I said that exact same thing in literally the next line of the comment you're responding to. :)
chjj 10y ago
> is that the real Satoshi has not put out a statement calling this guy out as a fraud And what about the inverse? If he is Satoshi, why didn't he just put out a signed statement saying he is Craig? Satoshi seemed perfectly capable of producing valid signatures (and he could do it without a 25-page blog post). Stop giving him the benefit of the doubt. He couldn't produce a valid signature. He couldn't move old coins. He couldn't explain the blockchain with anything more than an amateur understanding of it (his article describing mining had at least 2 major factual errors I could pick out in the first 2 paragraphs). When he realized he couldn't keep the charade up, he gave up. It's really that simple.
- ebbv 10y ago
  Like I said all evidence and logic leads to the conclusion he's a fraud, but it is a bit strange that the real Satoshi has not commented on this when he did on the Dorian Nakamoto stuff.
  - gnaritas 10y ago
    I think it's pretty well accepted that that wasn't Satoshi either, someone hacked the forum account and posted that.
SyneRyder 10y ago
Elsewhere in these comments, others have pointed out that probably wasn't the real Satoshi, the account was compromised: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11635818 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11635818
rdtsc 10y ago
> is that the real Satoshi has not put out a statement calling this guy out as a fraud. Why would he? He felt sorry for Dorian, why would he step into this mess and get tangled in this story.

by ebbv 10y ago

ramblerman 10y ago

It's not that unlikely that satoshi is dead given the sudden silence. Someone like Craig Wright might have gambled on that fact.

kbart 10y ago

I'm sure the goal of such step is exactly this -- to leave some room for doubt. The conman was moved in a corner during last few days, it was the only logical step left. It's only few commands to prove that you really poses the original key, no need for drama, screenshots and buggy scripts.

gamache 10y ago

> When the Dorian Nakamoto stuff happened the real Satoshi put out a statement saying he's not Dorian. That wasn't that long ago. My read on that is that Satoshi felt sorry for the hapless Japanese-American guy with tech media showing up at his house. In contrast, Craig Wright asked for this.

celticninja 10y ago
Also the old guy was going to have to prove a negative. Can't be done.
- lgas 10y ago
  Let's see some proof that it can't be done.
ebbv 10y ago
I said that exact same thing in literally the next line of the comment you're responding to. :)

chjj 10y ago

> is that the real Satoshi has not put out a statement calling this guy out as a fraud And what about the inverse? If he is Satoshi, why didn't he just put out a signed statement saying he is Craig? Satoshi seemed perfectly capable of producing valid signatures (and he could do it without a 25-page blog post). Stop giving him the benefit of the doubt. He couldn't produce a valid signature. He couldn't move old coins. He couldn't explain the blockchain with anything more than an amateur understanding of it (his article describing mining had at least 2 major factual errors I could pick out in the first 2 paragraphs). When he realized he couldn't keep the charade up, he gave up. It's really that simple.

ebbv 10y ago
Like I said all evidence and logic leads to the conclusion he's a fraud, but it is a bit strange that the real Satoshi has not commented on this when he did on the Dorian Nakamoto stuff.
- gnaritas 10y ago
  I think it's pretty well accepted that that wasn't Satoshi either, someone hacked the forum account and posted that.

SyneRyder 10y ago

Elsewhere in these comments, others have pointed out that probably wasn't the real Satoshi, the account was compromised: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11635818 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11635818

rdtsc 10y ago

> is that the real Satoshi has not put out a statement calling this guy out as a fraud. Why would he? He felt sorry for Dorian, why would he step into this mess and get tangled in this story.