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I'm going to declare something else the worst holy war ever. Then we can have an even worse holy war than ever was before, making ourselves both wrong.

nostrademons 17y ago
I think the Crusades were the worst holy war ever. There. Problem solved. Unless you wanna kill a few hundred thousand people and go to war for a few hundred years. (If I'd said "The holocaust", I could've Godwinned this thread, but that wasn't really a holy war.)
- arethuza 17y ago
  That's quite an interesting point - if you restrict holy wars to the "my imaginary friend is better than your imaginary friend.... fight!" kind then you are probably correct. I'm trying to think of other real "holy wars" - the 30 Years War is perhaps the only other major one I can think of. I guess most other "holy wars" are really justs lingering fall out from conquests Ottoman invasion of Europe, Ireland, .....
  - berntb 17y ago
    The 30 Year War was really a Holy war? Consider that Sweden, one of the big participants, was financed by the famously Protestant country France! :-)
- viraptor 17y ago
  Does "War on terror" count as a holy war? Then we could have a contest after all. It's not a few hundred years yet, but give it some time to unfold ;)
- berntb 17y ago
  Interesting... how were the Crusades larger/worse than the muslim expansion all the way to Spain/Balkan/India? (Let us bunch the Crusades as one single example, at least for this argument.) (The Huns/Mongols were religiously tolerant and motivated by conquest, right?)
  - ibsulon 17y ago
    The Ottoman Empire was religiously tolerant and motivated by conquest as well. (The irony of the 20th century is that if the empire could have staved off its breakup for just a little longer, they would have had Iraq's oil wealth to back them up and very well could have developed into a modern superpower.)
    - berntb 17y ago
      A point, re muslim expansion to the Balkans. But still, just the Spain/Persia/Iran expansion makes the Crusades look like a tea party with centenarians. But where the Ottomans religiously tolerant in all periods? It seems the Turks where really disliked by their subjects (both in Middle East and in the Balkan), where did that come from, then?
      - berntb 17y ago
        Sigh, s/Iran/India/
maurycy 17y ago
The worst holy war would be a holy war about holy wars: which holy war is the worst?
Groxx 17y ago
I declare "O rly?" vs "Ya rly" the worst holy war ever. Neither side will ever give an inch, and vast armies of anonymous have lobbed internets at each other, killing a few StarCraft players in Korea and memeing millions upon millions more, with more arriving every day.

nostrademons 17y ago

I think the Crusades were the worst holy war ever. There. Problem solved. Unless you wanna kill a few hundred thousand people and go to war for a few hundred years. (If I'd said "The holocaust", I could've Godwinned this thread, but that wasn't really a holy war.)

arethuza 17y ago
That's quite an interesting point - if you restrict holy wars to the "my imaginary friend is better than your imaginary friend.... fight!" kind then you are probably correct. I'm trying to think of other real "holy wars" - the 30 Years War is perhaps the only other major one I can think of. I guess most other "holy wars" are really justs lingering fall out from conquests Ottoman invasion of Europe, Ireland, .....
- berntb 17y ago
  The 30 Year War was really a Holy war? Consider that Sweden, one of the big participants, was financed by the famously Protestant country France! :-)
viraptor 17y ago
Does "War on terror" count as a holy war? Then we could have a contest after all. It's not a few hundred years yet, but give it some time to unfold ;)
berntb 17y ago
Interesting... how were the Crusades larger/worse than the muslim expansion all the way to Spain/Balkan/India? (Let us bunch the Crusades as one single example, at least for this argument.) (The Huns/Mongols were religiously tolerant and motivated by conquest, right?)
- ibsulon 17y ago
  The Ottoman Empire was religiously tolerant and motivated by conquest as well. (The irony of the 20th century is that if the empire could have staved off its breakup for just a little longer, they would have had Iraq's oil wealth to back them up and very well could have developed into a modern superpower.)
  - berntb 17y ago
    A point, re muslim expansion to the Balkans. But still, just the Spain/Persia/Iran expansion makes the Crusades look like a tea party with centenarians. But where the Ottomans religiously tolerant in all periods? It seems the Turks where really disliked by their subjects (both in Middle East and in the Balkan), where did that come from, then?
    - berntb 17y ago
      Sigh, s/Iran/India/

maurycy 17y ago

The worst holy war would be a holy war about holy wars: which holy war is the worst?

Groxx 17y ago

I declare "O rly?" vs "Ya rly" the worst holy war ever. Neither side will ever give an inch, and vast armies of anonymous have lobbed internets at each other, killing a few StarCraft players in Korea and memeing millions upon millions more, with more arriving every day.