I came here to say that. I read this as an advertisment for agile development... It's a false savings to involve developers late, even if you have 'the compete

I came here to say that. I read this as an advertisment for agile development... It's a false savings to involve developers late, even if you have 'the competence' in the project already. I would suggest using a story mapping technique. (Jeff Patton) But if the stakeholders are clueless, you get into the game too late as a developer.