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London may elect it's first Muslim mayor

11 points by mgalka 10y ago

jamespo 10y ago
"he was Britain first Muslim cabinet minister under Corbin Frank"
SideburnsOfDoom 10y ago
> London may elect it's first Muslim mayor The original headline is "Londoners Could Elect City's First Muslim Mayor" If you're going to change it, may I suggest "its" not it's" as in http://grammarist.com/spelling/its-its/ http://grammarist.com/spelling/its-its/ (edit I see that's the verbatim subheading of the original article. Still not a great choice) Sadiq Khan (Labour) is leading in the polls, with Zac Goldsmith (Conservative) running second.
- boot13 10y ago
  Agreed. However, if you're going to correct someone's grammar on the Internet, may I suggest that you use correct grammar yourself, per http://grammarist.com/usage/as-per/ http://grammarist.com/usage/as-per/.
  - SideburnsOfDoom 10y ago
    Done
  - KON_Air 10y ago
    I be capital too since "it" refers to London?
- lucozade 10y ago
  > London may elect it's first Muslim mayor That's the first sentence in the piece. Complete with grammatical inexactitude. Although, in fairness, that's not the worst bit of English in the article. I'm quite interested in knowing why this is on HN front page. Not because the lack of tech or VC in the subject matter, just that it's so dreadfully poor and content light.
  - SideburnsOfDoom 10y ago
    > I'm quite interested in knowing why this is on HN front page. Not because the lack of tech or VC in the subject matter, just that it's so dreadfully poor and content light. reply Possibly helped to the front page by it being morning in the UK when it appeared - right in time for people to check HN before the working day. I agree that it's a content-light article, so post what you find to be better links in the comments - I have.
edent 10y ago
That's a very odd article. Not least because "it's" means "it is" - not "belonging to it." For those outside the UK, it is important to note that the Evening Standard is ideologically opposed to the Labour party - to the point where their election coverage is discredited to the point of parody. No idea who "Corbin Frank" is meant to be. The audio clearly says "Gordon Brown." I'm proud to live in a country where someone can rise from humble beginnings to high office. I'm just sad he's the exception rather than the norm. Oh, an most people couldn't give a toss which religion he is. Despite having an official state religion, we're far less fussed with religious acceptability that the (supposedly secular) US.
- pidg 10y ago
  > I'm just sad he's the exception rather than the norm. Margaret Thatcher was the daughter of a grocer, worked as a scientist and became PM, despite huge party opposition at the time because she was middle class. Gordon Brown went to a comprehensive. John Major didn't even go to university...
  - edent 10y ago
    Oh, aye, it happens. But look at the current cabinet and try to find a bloke who didn't go to school with the PM...
    - alexbilbie 10y ago
      Of the 14 male Cabinet ministers (excluding the PM) only 3 went to Oxford; of whom only Gove and Osbourne attended at the same time as Cameron.
      - edent 10y ago
        I never let the facts get in the way of my prejudices.
- carsongross 10y ago
  Is the rhetorical technique of declaring some online content "odd" or "strange" a UK mannerism? I see it frequently here on HN but I rarely see it in other contexts.
ilghiro 10y ago
This country's gone to the dogs ever since Corbin Frank left office
- pidg 10y ago
  Greatest Prime Minister we never had.
- de_dave 10y ago
  He did put up a good opposition to the other party during that time though.
angry-hacker 10y ago
What does the term 'Muslim person' even mean? Is every other white politician Christian politician? Is it religion, name, background? This guy is in favor of same sex marriage and received death threats because of it, I doubt he is a Muslim in religious sense, or if he is, then very 'bad' one according to the teachings. Belgium gay beauty contest had a 'first gay muslim' contender. I chuckled when I read it. It is also complicated with term Jewish. Is everyone
robmcm 10y ago
"or rather a mayor that happens to be Muslim", but then I guess that wouldn't get as many clicks...
SideburnsOfDoom 10y ago
it has been quite a ugly and dirty campaign lately (1) with a lot of press over some Labour members' antisemitic remarks (2), and criticism of the level of Goldsmith's Conservative campaign (3) because of that divisive aspect, I'm a glad that it's over now. My sympathies to the USA, hang in there until November. 1) http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/30/battle-london-mayor-dirtiest-fight-zac-goldsmith-sadiq-khan http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/30/battle-londo... 2) http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/28/ken-livingstone-suspended-from-labour-after-hitler-remarks http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/28/ken-livingst... 3) http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/30/tories-proud-toxic-goldsmith-campaign-london-mayor http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/30/tories-... http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/london-mayor-race-conservatives-game-religious-and-racial-divisions-538083247 http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/london-mayor-race-conse... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KBpBkkbpjs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KBpBkkbpjs

11 points by mgalka 10y ago

"he was Britain first Muslim cabinet minister under Corbin Frank"

> London may elect it's first Muslim mayor The original headline is "Londoners Could Elect City's First Muslim Mayor" If you're going to change it, may I suggest "its" not it's" as in http://grammarist.com/spelling/its-its/ http://grammarist.com/spelling/its-its/ (edit I see that's the verbatim subheading of the original article. Still not a great choice) Sadiq Khan (Labour) is leading in the polls, with Zac Goldsmith (Conservative) running second.

boot13 10y ago
Agreed. However, if you're going to correct someone's grammar on the Internet, may I suggest that you use correct grammar yourself, per http://grammarist.com/usage/as-per/ http://grammarist.com/usage/as-per/.
- SideburnsOfDoom 10y ago
  Done
- KON_Air 10y ago
  I be capital too since "it" refers to London?
lucozade 10y ago
> London may elect it's first Muslim mayor That's the first sentence in the piece. Complete with grammatical inexactitude. Although, in fairness, that's not the worst bit of English in the article. I'm quite interested in knowing why this is on HN front page. Not because the lack of tech or VC in the subject matter, just that it's so dreadfully poor and content light.
- SideburnsOfDoom 10y ago
  > I'm quite interested in knowing why this is on HN front page. Not because the lack of tech or VC in the subject matter, just that it's so dreadfully poor and content light. reply Possibly helped to the front page by it being morning in the UK when it appeared - right in time for people to check HN before the working day. I agree that it's a content-light article, so post what you find to be better links in the comments - I have.

edent 10y ago

That's a very odd article. Not least because "it's" means "it is" - not "belonging to it." For those outside the UK, it is important to note that the Evening Standard is ideologically opposed to the Labour party - to the point where their election coverage is discredited to the point of parody. No idea who "Corbin Frank" is meant to be. The audio clearly says "Gordon Brown." I'm proud to live in a country where someone can rise from humble beginnings to high office. I'm just sad he's the exception rather than the norm. Oh, an most people couldn't give a toss which religion he is. Despite having an official state religion, we're far less fussed with religious acceptability that the (supposedly secular) US.

pidg 10y ago
> I'm just sad he's the exception rather than the norm. Margaret Thatcher was the daughter of a grocer, worked as a scientist and became PM, despite huge party opposition at the time because she was middle class. Gordon Brown went to a comprehensive. John Major didn't even go to university...
- edent 10y ago
  Oh, aye, it happens. But look at the current cabinet and try to find a bloke who didn't go to school with the PM...
  - alexbilbie 10y ago
    Of the 14 male Cabinet ministers (excluding the PM) only 3 went to Oxford; of whom only Gove and Osbourne attended at the same time as Cameron.
    - edent 10y ago
      I never let the facts get in the way of my prejudices.
carsongross 10y ago
Is the rhetorical technique of declaring some online content "odd" or "strange" a UK mannerism? I see it frequently here on HN but I rarely see it in other contexts.

ilghiro 10y ago

This country's gone to the dogs ever since Corbin Frank left office

pidg 10y ago
Greatest Prime Minister we never had.
de_dave 10y ago
He did put up a good opposition to the other party during that time though.

angry-hacker 10y ago

What does the term 'Muslim person' even mean? Is every other white politician Christian politician? Is it religion, name, background? This guy is in favor of same sex marriage and received death threats because of it, I doubt he is a Muslim in religious sense, or if he is, then very 'bad' one according to the teachings. Belgium gay beauty contest had a 'first gay muslim' contender. I chuckled when I read it. It is also complicated with term Jewish. Is everyone

robmcm 10y ago

"or rather a mayor that happens to be Muslim", but then I guess that wouldn't get as many clicks...

SideburnsOfDoom 10y ago

it has been quite a ugly and dirty campaign lately (1) with a lot of press over some Labour members' antisemitic remarks (2), and criticism of the level of Goldsmith's Conservative campaign (3) because of that divisive aspect, I'm a glad that it's over now. My sympathies to the USA, hang in there until November. 1) http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/30/battle-london-mayor-dirtiest-fight-zac-goldsmith-sadiq-khan http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/30/battle-londo... 2) http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/28/ken-livingstone-suspended-from-labour-after-hitler-remarks http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/28/ken-livingst... 3) http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/30/tories-proud-toxic-goldsmith-campaign-london-mayor http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/30/tories-... http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/london-mayor-race-conservatives-game-religious-and-racial-divisions-538083247 http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/london-mayor-race-conse... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KBpBkkbpjs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KBpBkkbpjs