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"The only thing she's got is the woman's card" is not sexist. Stay classy Hacker News! I had a haunch when I replied to your first comment. Shame on me for res

"The only thing she's got is the woman's card" is not sexist. Stay classy Hacker News! I had a haunch when I replied to your first comment. Shame on me for responding.

mistermann 10y ago
Is whether or not the statement is true of interest to you? edit: Or in other words, do you think there is actually such a thing as a woman card (race card, victim card, etc), or are these a completely manufactured ideas with no basis in reality?
- mistermann 10y ago
  Apparently this is now a designated safe space.
coldtea 10y ago
In what way is that sexist? Sexist would be to say that she's a bad candidate BECAUSE she's a woman. What he said is that she's using being a woman to win over votes while not having much else to offer, policy wise -- which he could legitimately believe. FWIW, I believe that the woman card is indeed something Clinton played. Not the first to use such tactics either: Obama played the race card. And I'm not saying these things as in any way republican. I'm a foreigner, and for me even Sanders or Kucinich look right wingers. Clinton (Bill) played the "40-something youthful" card, Bush played the "more patriotic but still plain folk like ya all" card, etc. And Trump has his own "mad-dog patriot tells them like they is" card. >I had a haunch when I replied to your first comment. Shame on me for responding. Shame indeed, but not for responding to the parent, but for belittling them and going for a personal attack.
- kelukelugames 10y ago
  You are foreigner? That explains your lack of knowledge. "Woman card" and "race card" are loaded terms in the US. They are used to dismiss grievances due to discrimination and to belittle the achievements of non white males.
  - coldtea 10y ago
    >You are foreigner? That explains your lack of knowledge. That probably explains my impartiality. I'm more in tune with American culture (everyday and historical) than probably 90% of the local population. Heck, I've even been to most states than most (well, all of the continental ones). But I don't ascribe to ideological biases of either side. >"Woman card" and "race card" are loaded terms in the US. They are used to dismiss grievances due to discrimination and to belittle the achievements of non white males. That's a loaded way to put it itself. Yes, "woman card" and "race card" can be used to "dismiss grievances" by white males, but can also be used to claim bogus benefits by the respective card holders. Whether white or black, man or woman, there IS such a thing as an abuse of your race/gender to gain sympathy. And blanket statements about this are one-sided -- whether "woman card" or "race card" is a valid or bigoted use have to be examined on a case by case basis.
    - kelukelugames 10y ago
      People have this victim complex where they think minorities and women are playing their cards to oppress white men. Fantasizing about imaginary abuse must be fun.

"The only thing she's got is the woman's card" is not sexist. Stay classy Hacker News! I had a haunch when I replied to your first comment. Shame on me for responding.

mistermann 10y ago

Is whether or not the statement is true of interest to you? edit: Or in other words, do you think there is actually such a thing as a woman card (race card, victim card, etc), or are these a completely manufactured ideas with no basis in reality?

mistermann 10y ago
Apparently this is now a designated safe space.

coldtea 10y ago

In what way is that sexist? Sexist would be to say that she's a bad candidate BECAUSE she's a woman. What he said is that she's using being a woman to win over votes while not having much else to offer, policy wise -- which he could legitimately believe. FWIW, I believe that the woman card is indeed something Clinton played. Not the first to use such tactics either: Obama played the race card. And I'm not saying these things as in any way republican. I'm a foreigner, and for me even Sanders or Kucinich look right wingers. Clinton (Bill) played the "40-something youthful" card, Bush played the "more patriotic but still plain folk like ya all" card, etc. And Trump has his own "mad-dog patriot tells them like they is" card. >I had a haunch when I replied to your first comment. Shame on me for responding. Shame indeed, but not for responding to the parent, but for belittling them and going for a personal attack.

kelukelugames 10y ago
You are foreigner? That explains your lack of knowledge. "Woman card" and "race card" are loaded terms in the US. They are used to dismiss grievances due to discrimination and to belittle the achievements of non white males.
- coldtea 10y ago
  >You are foreigner? That explains your lack of knowledge. That probably explains my impartiality. I'm more in tune with American culture (everyday and historical) than probably 90% of the local population. Heck, I've even been to most states than most (well, all of the continental ones). But I don't ascribe to ideological biases of either side. >"Woman card" and "race card" are loaded terms in the US. They are used to dismiss grievances due to discrimination and to belittle the achievements of non white males. That's a loaded way to put it itself. Yes, "woman card" and "race card" can be used to "dismiss grievances" by white males, but can also be used to claim bogus benefits by the respective card holders. Whether white or black, man or woman, there IS such a thing as an abuse of your race/gender to gain sympathy. And blanket statements about this are one-sided -- whether "woman card" or "race card" is a valid or bigoted use have to be examined on a case by case basis.
  - kelukelugames 10y ago
    People have this victim complex where they think minorities and women are playing their cards to oppress white men. Fantasizing about imaginary abuse must be fun.