Heh, it is also a consequence of the web limitations (can't easily replace javascript, or anything else without breaking backwards compatibility) and its assoc

Heh, it is also a consequence of the web limitations (can't easily replace javascript, or anything else without breaking backwards compatibility) and its associated technologies. You can only poke the browser, not understand it. I find funny that only last year with MVC scaffolding generators I can do forms to access a database just as easily as I was doing them in Foxpro 20 years ago. Yes, now it is client server, safe against common hacking attacks, responsive, etc. But it's been 20 years ! And the productivity valley between both points is abysmal.