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>Accusations of soliciting votes by tweeting the HN threads would carry weight with me if there had been any published guidelines about what kind of publicity w

by abhi3 10y ago

>Accusations of soliciting votes by tweeting the HN threads would carry weight with me if there had been any published guidelines about what kind of publicity was allowed. Sure: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11442647 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11442647 P.S. I voted for Pinboard.

tptacek 10y ago
That's the problem with with this. You know and I know that posting a Twitter message about your HN post is against the rules, but that's because we're HN nerds. Maciej isn't. I understand completely why the complete rulebook on how you can't and can't promote your posts isn't posted clearly on the site. Voting ring suppression is an arms race, and posting the current rules helps the vote-ringers. But a general statement about not soliciting support for applications could have been made clearer. And, more importantly, the vote ring really had nothing to do with this. Kevin Hale didn't want Maciej in the program. That's all there was to it.
- abhi3 10y ago
  I agree with you on everything. But also with Kevin and Dang. Getting into YCF even with 100 more votes than the next 3 combined is not a right. If YC doesn't feel comfortable working with him and think that he'll negatively affect the batch and the alumni network, that's their call. (Just take this thread for example, what was supposed to be a post mortem of the contest and a place to give suggestions and feedback has turned into a complaint fest). I did somethings which the mods didn't approve of in their judgement and my application itself was disqualified (it was ranked at 5 by upvotes) but I don't feel entitled so I'm not complaining.
  - thedufer 10y ago
    > I don't feel entitled so I'm not complaining Is it because you don't feel entitled? Or because there's a vast chasm of difference between "5th place" and "1st place by several miles in each of two separate races"?
  - foota 10y ago
    I don't think I would quite describe the comments as a complaint fest, it seems like a fairly civil and thought out discussion.
- intrasight 10y ago
  > posting a Twitter message about your HN post is against the rules Questions: 1. where are these rules published? 2. why would someone (except in this one case involving money for votes) solicit upvotes for a post?
  - jacalata 10y ago
    High positioning on HN can presumably drive a lot of traffic?

by abhi3 10y ago

tptacek 10y ago

That's the problem with with this. You know and I know that posting a Twitter message about your HN post is against the rules, but that's because we're HN nerds. Maciej isn't. I understand completely why the complete rulebook on how you can't and can't promote your posts isn't posted clearly on the site. Voting ring suppression is an arms race, and posting the current rules helps the vote-ringers. But a general statement about not soliciting support for applications could have been made clearer. And, more importantly, the vote ring really had nothing to do with this. Kevin Hale didn't want Maciej in the program. That's all there was to it.

abhi3 10y ago
I agree with you on everything. But also with Kevin and Dang. Getting into YCF even with 100 more votes than the next 3 combined is not a right. If YC doesn't feel comfortable working with him and think that he'll negatively affect the batch and the alumni network, that's their call. (Just take this thread for example, what was supposed to be a post mortem of the contest and a place to give suggestions and feedback has turned into a complaint fest). I did somethings which the mods didn't approve of in their judgement and my application itself was disqualified (it was ranked at 5 by upvotes) but I don't feel entitled so I'm not complaining.
- thedufer 10y ago
  > I don't feel entitled so I'm not complaining Is it because you don't feel entitled? Or because there's a vast chasm of difference between "5th place" and "1st place by several miles in each of two separate races"?
- foota 10y ago
  I don't think I would quite describe the comments as a complaint fest, it seems like a fairly civil and thought out discussion.
intrasight 10y ago
> posting a Twitter message about your HN post is against the rules Questions: 1. where are these rules published? 2. why would someone (except in this one case involving money for votes) solicit upvotes for a post?
- jacalata 10y ago
  High positioning on HN can presumably drive a lot of traffic?