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hm, here the story is clear, as presented by the self declared "harassment victim": the FBI politely asked for a meeting (without making a time consuming invest

by temac 10y ago

hm, here the story is clear, as presented by the self declared "harassment victim": the FBI politely asked for a meeting (without making a time consuming investigation before that), several time, but still politely, and the "target" never was interested, had some anxiety attacks, and eventually made a paranoid blog post. I would kindly advise some rest.

nv-vn 10y ago
And how would one know they're not going to be arrested if they meet with the FBI? You'll end up in a lot of trouble if you trust every word the government says, especially when it's something as secretive as this. And of course there's no proof that she wasn't a suspect in some investigation, etc. The only thing we know is that the FBI is no longer as interested in meeting with her (which means very little on its own).
- ryanlol 10y ago
  None of this makes what happened here "harassment".
oarsinsync 10y ago
> “But… if we happen to run into her on the street, we’re gonna be asking her some questions without you present.” Doesn't sound particularly polite. Sounds borderline threatening. "You should pay us protection money. If you don't, you might wish you had." isn't far removed from the above.
brennannovak 10y ago
Read the update on Isis' blog post!
forgottenpass 10y ago
The federal law enforcement agency is trying to talk to someone and making it quite clear they don't want that person's lawyer present for the conversation nor even know the topic. What exactly would it take to cross your threshold for paranoia?
- temac 10y ago
  That they actually search to take contact beyond a few phone calls.
mindcrime 10y ago
Given the FBI's inglorious history[1][2][3], I'd say that any time the FBI shows the slightest interest in you, you are totally justified in being paranoid. The FBI are not your friends, they're not your buddy, they are not on your side, and there's almost certainly little or no reason to talk to them, especially without an attorney present[4]. [1]: https://www.aclu.org/news/aclu-releases-report-fbi-crusade-against-martin-luther-king-jr-urges-ashcroft-not-relax-spying https://www.aclu.org/news/aclu-releases-report-fbi-crusade-a... [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Edgar_Hoover https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Edgar_Hoover [3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO [4]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

by temac 10y ago

nv-vn 10y ago

And how would one know they're not going to be arrested if they meet with the FBI? You'll end up in a lot of trouble if you trust every word the government says, especially when it's something as secretive as this. And of course there's no proof that she wasn't a suspect in some investigation, etc. The only thing we know is that the FBI is no longer as interested in meeting with her (which means very little on its own).

ryanlol 10y ago
None of this makes what happened here "harassment".

oarsinsync 10y ago

> “But… if we happen to run into her on the street, we’re gonna be asking her some questions without you present.” Doesn't sound particularly polite. Sounds borderline threatening. "You should pay us protection money. If you don't, you might wish you had." isn't far removed from the above.

brennannovak 10y ago

Read the update on Isis' blog post!

forgottenpass 10y ago

The federal law enforcement agency is trying to talk to someone and making it quite clear they don't want that person's lawyer present for the conversation nor even know the topic. What exactly would it take to cross your threshold for paranoia?

temac 10y ago
That they actually search to take contact beyond a few phone calls.

mindcrime 10y ago

Given the FBI's inglorious history[1][2][3], I'd say that any time the FBI shows the slightest interest in you, you are totally justified in being paranoid. The FBI are not your friends, they're not your buddy, they are not on your side, and there's almost certainly little or no reason to talk to them, especially without an attorney present[4]. [1]: https://www.aclu.org/news/aclu-releases-report-fbi-crusade-against-martin-luther-king-jr-urges-ashcroft-not-relax-spying https://www.aclu.org/news/aclu-releases-report-fbi-crusade-a... [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Edgar_Hoover https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Edgar_Hoover [3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO [4]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc