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If we're going the analogies here, this is more like someone with a gun pointed at them worrying that they may get shot. "Stop worrying!" you say. "You can trus

by zyxley 10y ago

If we're going the analogies here, this is more like someone with a gun pointed at them worrying that they may get shot. "Stop worrying!" you say. "You can trust the person holding the gun! They almost never shoot people who don't deserve it!"

dimino 10y ago
Being questioned by the FBI is not analogous to being shot in the head.
- zyxley 10y ago
  Being told "the FBI has decided to talk to you without a lawyer present" has a small but entirely real chance of resulting in personal or professional harm. Also, I don't know where you got "in the head" from.
  - dimino 10y ago
    Driving to work has a small but entirely real chance of resulting in personal (maybe not professional) harm.
    - zyxley 10y ago
      If we're going to veer into dumb analogies again, this would be more like driving to work after somebody leaves you a voicemail saying "I'm going to be suddenly braking in front of your car for your entire commute".
      - dimino 10y ago
        My comment wasn't an analogy. I'm pointing out that everything has risk, and if your response is to have panic attacks, you are not reacting the way a healthy person reacts.
        zyxley 10y ago
        Reacting with stress and worry to an implicit threat of physical or social harm is exactly like a healthy person.
        dimino 10y ago
        I agree, however there wasn't a threat of implicit physical or social harm, and this reaction goes above and beyond "stress and worry".
        zyxley 10y ago
        > however there wasn't a threat of implicit physical or social harm "We are going to try and question you without your lawyer" is absolutely an implicit threat.
        dimino 10y ago
        Consolidating threads (for both our sanity): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11632516 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11632516
ryanlol 10y ago
I've had the FBI point guns at me and don't see why the situation should've been worrying. Why would I have acted in a manner that would've justified shooting me?

by zyxley 10y ago

dimino 10y ago

Being questioned by the FBI is not analogous to being shot in the head.

zyxley 10y ago
Being told "the FBI has decided to talk to you without a lawyer present" has a small but entirely real chance of resulting in personal or professional harm. Also, I don't know where you got "in the head" from.
- dimino 10y ago
  Driving to work has a small but entirely real chance of resulting in personal (maybe not professional) harm.
  - zyxley 10y ago
    If we're going to veer into dumb analogies again, this would be more like driving to work after somebody leaves you a voicemail saying "I'm going to be suddenly braking in front of your car for your entire commute".
    - dimino 10y ago
      My comment wasn't an analogy. I'm pointing out that everything has risk, and if your response is to have panic attacks, you are not reacting the way a healthy person reacts.
      - zyxley 10y ago
        Reacting with stress and worry to an implicit threat of physical or social harm is exactly like a healthy person.
        dimino 10y ago
        I agree, however there wasn't a threat of implicit physical or social harm, and this reaction goes above and beyond "stress and worry".
        zyxley 10y ago
        > however there wasn't a threat of implicit physical or social harm "We are going to try and question you without your lawyer" is absolutely an implicit threat.
        dimino 10y ago
        Consolidating threads (for both our sanity): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11632516 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11632516

ryanlol 10y ago

I've had the FBI point guns at me and don't see why the situation should've been worrying. Why would I have acted in a manner that would've justified shooting me?