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> but I don't understand why she refused to talk to them at all Talking to law enforcement is the job of your lawyer. If law enforcement refuses to talk to you

by zyxley 10y ago

> but I don't understand why she refused to talk to them at all Talking to law enforcement is the job of your lawyer. If law enforcement refuses to talk to your lawyer, is it really that far-fetched to think they may want to do other things outside the bounds of the usual legal process?

emcrazyone 10y ago
I can't up vote this comment enough. Law enforcement are not your friends and they are not on your side. My very close friend's dad has been a cop for 35 years and he has told us this over the years. Want another opinion? See this from a cop and a law professor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc
- kilroy123 10y ago
  Having a lawyer makes you look guilty! /s
- sudojudo 10y ago
  The author links to that video in the article, which shows that she's aware of the games that are played. They're using bully tactics. Did they have to show up on her family's doorstep? No. Did they really have people watching out for her in five cities? No. Was there any reason they couldn't communicate through her lawyer? No. Did they have to speak to her in person? No. Do they have the right to circumvent her legal counsel (or make threats to do so)? No. They're just playing mind games, like they're trained to do. Spooks gonna spook.
usefulcat 10y ago
Yes. Also, unlike "ordinary" police, in the US it's a crime to lie to a federal agent. In her place, I'd be worried that I might accidentally say something that would give them leverage.
- yownie 10y ago
  This++ I wish more people would know about this one fact than any other.
xenadu02 10y ago
As others have pointed out, if they just wanted her expert opinion on Tor they could have had the phone call or submitted the questions to her lawyer, which is standard practice by the way. There is a huge whiff of shadiness about how the agents were behaving. Maybe they had a good reason and just wanted her help, but everything screams watch the fuck out or end up like Aaron Swartz.

by zyxley 10y ago

emcrazyone 10y ago

I can't up vote this comment enough. Law enforcement are not your friends and they are not on your side. My very close friend's dad has been a cop for 35 years and he has told us this over the years. Want another opinion? See this from a cop and a law professor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

kilroy123 10y ago
Having a lawyer makes you look guilty! /s
sudojudo 10y ago
The author links to that video in the article, which shows that she's aware of the games that are played. They're using bully tactics. Did they have to show up on her family's doorstep? No. Did they really have people watching out for her in five cities? No. Was there any reason they couldn't communicate through her lawyer? No. Did they have to speak to her in person? No. Do they have the right to circumvent her legal counsel (or make threats to do so)? No. They're just playing mind games, like they're trained to do. Spooks gonna spook.

usefulcat 10y ago

Yes. Also, unlike "ordinary" police, in the US it's a crime to lie to a federal agent. In her place, I'd be worried that I might accidentally say something that would give them leverage.

yownie 10y ago
This++ I wish more people would know about this one fact than any other.

xenadu02 10y ago

As others have pointed out, if they just wanted her expert opinion on Tor they could have had the phone call or submitted the questions to her lawyer, which is standard practice by the way. There is a huge whiff of shadiness about how the agents were behaving. Maybe they had a good reason and just wanted her help, but everything screams watch the fuck out or end up like Aaron Swartz.