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But it is a little disheartening (yet also exciting) to think that when an AI is eventually developed with a human's intuition, creativity, and learning ability

by rudolf0 10y ago

But it is a little disheartening (yet also exciting) to think that when an AI is eventually developed with a human's intuition, creativity, and learning ability, we'll essentially have no advantages over them.

dfischer 10y ago
Why should we have an advantage ?
- coldtea 10y ago
  Because we are we, and it makes sense to root for the home team. DUH! Why would you say should you not be killed by advanced robo-zombie AI?
  - dfischer 10y ago
    Why would I assume an that AI is robo zombie and wants to kill me?
    - coldtea 10y ago
      That's the thing. It will not be up for you to assume. It will be up to the AI to decide. That's why we think it could be a problem (for us) if the AI to had the advantage on us... Our thinking: "Great, we've made this 100x as smart as us AI, even gave it a robot body! Imagine how helpful it will be to us". AI thinking: "Hmm, those pesky creatures think that I'm kind of their servant because they created me? They're like ants to me. I shall crush them and go on with my plans for conquering the universe".
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Terr_ 10y ago
Alternately, in order to achieve a human's "intuition, creativity, and learning ability", the AI architecture migh be required to sacrifice most of the narrow advantages we find daunting. At that point, further "capability upgrades" may be things you can apply to both systems.
coldtea 10y ago
It might also be a pipe dream. We might have a global maximum of tech we can achieve with our brain capacity that does not including building brain-level intelligence. Not because it's some special taboo/limit, maybe just because it's too high a barrier. (Or e.g. at best we could replicate it with organic matter, e.g. grow brain cells, tissues etc, but then it won't be as potentially speedy/efficient as computer AI either).
- prodmerc 10y ago
  I think that's why the focus is on deep learning and self improvement for AIs. We may not be able to create an AI that's as intelligent as us, but we can create a rudimentary AI that can then make itself smarter as time goes by (and since it can be practically immortal it would have a lot of time to learn) and which can be easily duplicated later. Downside is we probably won't know what it's actually thinking and what it will do...
CyberDildonics 10y ago
If we could make a machine better than us in every way, why couldn't that machine make us better in every way?

by rudolf0 10y ago

dfischer 10y ago

Why should we have an advantage ?

coldtea 10y ago
Because we are we, and it makes sense to root for the home team. DUH! Why would you say should you not be killed by advanced robo-zombie AI?
- dfischer 10y ago
  Why would I assume an that AI is robo zombie and wants to kill me?
  - coldtea 10y ago
    That's the thing. It will not be up for you to assume. It will be up to the AI to decide. That's why we think it could be a problem (for us) if the AI to had the advantage on us... Our thinking: "Great, we've made this 100x as smart as us AI, even gave it a robot body! Imagine how helpful it will be to us". AI thinking: "Hmm, those pesky creatures think that I'm kind of their servant because they created me? They're like ants to me. I shall crush them and go on with my plans for conquering the universe".

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Terr_ 10y ago

Alternately, in order to achieve a human's "intuition, creativity, and learning ability", the AI architecture migh be required to sacrifice most of the narrow advantages we find daunting. At that point, further "capability upgrades" may be things you can apply to both systems.

coldtea 10y ago

It might also be a pipe dream. We might have a global maximum of tech we can achieve with our brain capacity that does not including building brain-level intelligence. Not because it's some special taboo/limit, maybe just because it's too high a barrier. (Or e.g. at best we could replicate it with organic matter, e.g. grow brain cells, tissues etc, but then it won't be as potentially speedy/efficient as computer AI either).

prodmerc 10y ago
I think that's why the focus is on deep learning and self improvement for AIs. We may not be able to create an AI that's as intelligent as us, but we can create a rudimentary AI that can then make itself smarter as time goes by (and since it can be practically immortal it would have a lot of time to learn) and which can be easily duplicated later. Downside is we probably won't know what it's actually thinking and what it will do...

CyberDildonics 10y ago

If we could make a machine better than us in every way, why couldn't that machine make us better in every way?