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I disagree entirely. People are known to be fallible. Processes prevent things from accidentally happening. In areas where the life of someone or a large org
by rplst8 10y ago
I disagree entirely. People are known to be fallible. Processes prevent things from accidentally happening. In areas where the life of someone or a large organizational failure hangs in the balance of an action, that action should be wrapped in process to ensure it's correct execution, with fail-safe mechanisms put in place.
Further, these systems should be audited on a regular basis to ensure compliance.
Only in the case of purposeful or willful action or absolute gross negligence or being found unfit for duty (mentally or physically) should someone have their life ruined by removing their status/job/career path.
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- ryanlol 10y ago>Only in the case of purposeful or willful action or absolute gross negligence or being found unfit for duty (mentally or physically) should someone have their life ruined by removing their status/job/career path. Seriously? Losing your job hardly means that your life is ruined.
- jleader 10y agoSo you're advocating forgiving the educational loans of doctors who lose their license? Or do you leave them massively in debt, without the (relatively) lucrative profession they had assumed would allow them to pay off that debt?
- ryanlol 10y agoI'm not advocating anything. I'm just saying that losing your job/career/whatever doesn't equal a ruined life.
- toomuchtodo 10y ago> So you're advocating forgiving the educational loans of doctors who lose their license? Yes, although the better solution is to subsidize the education of medical providers directly, instead of burdening them with massive loans that take decades to repay. That's an argument for another thread though.
- thebokehwokeh2 10y agoMore than any other occupation, doctors spend a majority of their young adult lives learning about medicine and everything related to it. By removing them of their license to practice that, you've essentially stripped them of their life's purpose.
- ryanlol 10y agoI don't think any of the doctors I've met would consider medicine their life's purpose. Most people seem to have much more mundane goals.
- neurotech1 10y agoThey could still work as a research physician, or work for medical device manufacturer or drug company. If they are really bad at clinical practice, they might get a job on a TV show. Psychologist Dr Phil McGraw [0] stopped practicing after an investigation, and ended up as a talk show host. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_McGraw https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_McGraw
- DanBC 10y ago> Only in the case of purposeful or willful action or absolute gross negligence or being found unfit for duty (mentally or physically) should someone have their life ruined by removing their status/job/career path. Yes, and that "loss of job" or professional de-registration means many doctors do not seek help for mental illness. That might be one reason the suicide rate in doctors is so high. (Knowledge of effective methods; access to means and methods; and work stress are other reasons). In the UK Louis Appleby (who does a lot around suicide prevention in England) is doing some work with the General Medical Council (one of the regulators of doctors) around suicide prevention for doctors who are being investigated by GMC during fitness to practice. http://www.gmc-uk.org/Suicide_review___Final_Draft_Proposals_for_Publication___FINAL___20160418.pdf_65748529.pdf http://www.gmc-uk.org/Suicide_review___Final_Draft_Proposals... It also means doctors are more risky for patients. We need a way for doctors to seek help that protects them and their patients.