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What duress are you talking about? No one in the EU or the US will actually die if they don't take some crappy job. These people are free to live in a tent and

What duress are you talking about? No one in the EU or the US will actually die if they don't take some crappy job. These people are free to live in a tent and dive into trashcans for food if they don't like to work, which isn't nice but this certainly isn't death! It's just a crappy lifestyle. It's just they don't want to live in a tent and they want to have a smartphone, a car and enjoy all the things that the working population enjoys.

zyxley 10y ago
> which isn't nice but this certainly isn't death! It took me literally five seconds of searching to find a study [1] that notes that homeless people in the UK have a death rate that starts at twice that of people with homes and increases up to six times that of people with homes with age. [1]: http://www.crisis.org.uk/data/files/publications/Homelessness%20kills%20-%20Executive%20Summary.pdf http://www.crisis.org.uk/data/files/publications/Homelessnes...
- DominikR 10y ago
  This isn't surprising considering the alcohol/drug abuse and crime among homeless people. The reason why their death rate is higher is their state of mind. It causes them to not take that crappy job that barely affords them a normal life and can potentially open up new perspectives for the future and instead choose to do nothing and hang out with the wrong people until it is too late and they end up on the street. I don't see how giving them free money will in any way change their psychological condition. (of course there are always exceptions)
  - zyxley 10y ago
    Are you really trying to claim that literally every homeless person is a drug-abusing criminal?
    - DominikR 10y ago
      No I did not claim this. I wrote that drug and alcohol abuse is affecting more homeless people than others. This is obviously one of the causes why the death rate for homeless people is higher. But you are obviously not interested in a normal discussion since you just try to read something into my statements to attack me.
ticviking 10y ago
The same duress that uses force to prevent me for moving into the hills and living in a tent off the land.

zyxley 10y ago

> which isn't nice but this certainly isn't death! It took me literally five seconds of searching to find a study [1] that notes that homeless people in the UK have a death rate that starts at twice that of people with homes and increases up to six times that of people with homes with age. [1]: http://www.crisis.org.uk/data/files/publications/Homelessness%20kills%20-%20Executive%20Summary.pdf http://www.crisis.org.uk/data/files/publications/Homelessnes...

DominikR 10y ago
This isn't surprising considering the alcohol/drug abuse and crime among homeless people. The reason why their death rate is higher is their state of mind. It causes them to not take that crappy job that barely affords them a normal life and can potentially open up new perspectives for the future and instead choose to do nothing and hang out with the wrong people until it is too late and they end up on the street. I don't see how giving them free money will in any way change their psychological condition. (of course there are always exceptions)
- zyxley 10y ago
  Are you really trying to claim that literally every homeless person is a drug-abusing criminal?
  - DominikR 10y ago
    No I did not claim this. I wrote that drug and alcohol abuse is affecting more homeless people than others. This is obviously one of the causes why the death rate for homeless people is higher. But you are obviously not interested in a normal discussion since you just try to read something into my statements to attack me.

ticviking 10y ago

The same duress that uses force to prevent me for moving into the hills and living in a tent off the land.