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You care so little that you felt compelled to comment on HackerNews about how little you cared? I find this level of vitriol (spite?) toward someone else's fre

by beambot 11y ago

You care so little that you felt compelled to comment on HackerNews about how little you cared? I find this level of vitriol (spite?) toward someone else's free service fascinating... as if no one else, ever, might find it valuable?

adrusi 11y ago
What a narrow way to look at things. First of all, it seems that cableshaft felt talked down to. In that case it doesn't matter that it's a "free service", in-person conversations are also "free" but it's reasonable to raise a complaint if the other party is condescending. But I interpret their comment as more directed toward HN users than the creator of this site. That they felt cheated, seeing this link on the HN front page only to discover that it's lame and rude. I think it's perfectly fine to express that discontent in the comments, especially since HN doesn't allow downvoting stories.
- beambot 11y ago
  Hacker News does allow downvoting of stories -- in the form of flagging once you've surpassed the karma threshold. Leaving comments along the lines of "I tried it and it sucked because it doesn't support the US" is not, in my opinion, in line with the hacker news civility guidelines -- it's not constructive, especially when "all over Europe" is explicitly mentioned in the post's title. As for site portraying rent prices as "high"... it's all relative; those prices may be high for people in Europe, even though they might be paltry compared to SFBA.
  - cableshaft 11y ago
    It had nothing to do with not supporting the US. Me being from the US is fairly irrelevant, I wasn't expecting accurate data, just curious what the equivalent in Europe would be. What I didn't like was that it assumed that 5% higher than average was like some crazy high percentage and I'm getting totally fleeced and "Ooh snap! We warned you! You totally shouldn't have clicked this link! (except we baited you into it)" It's the attitude the website presented, not the actual data. And it's constructive in so much as I don't want people to use this site as a guideline on how to communicate with its audience when they make their own websites. 5% of my rent is roughly $50 a month, btw. Not insignificant, but not enough to warrant its tone either. And I don't live in the Bay Area, thanks for making another assumption about me.
drjesusphd 11y ago
I think your reaction is a bit extreme (perhaps you're making a joke in the style of the website?) Vitriol? Spite? Please. I think it's a helpful comment for how to improve the website.

by beambot 11y ago

adrusi 11y ago

What a narrow way to look at things. First of all, it seems that cableshaft felt talked down to. In that case it doesn't matter that it's a "free service", in-person conversations are also "free" but it's reasonable to raise a complaint if the other party is condescending. But I interpret their comment as more directed toward HN users than the creator of this site. That they felt cheated, seeing this link on the HN front page only to discover that it's lame and rude. I think it's perfectly fine to express that discontent in the comments, especially since HN doesn't allow downvoting stories.

beambot 11y ago
Hacker News does allow downvoting of stories -- in the form of flagging once you've surpassed the karma threshold. Leaving comments along the lines of "I tried it and it sucked because it doesn't support the US" is not, in my opinion, in line with the hacker news civility guidelines -- it's not constructive, especially when "all over Europe" is explicitly mentioned in the post's title. As for site portraying rent prices as "high"... it's all relative; those prices may be high for people in Europe, even though they might be paltry compared to SFBA.
- cableshaft 11y ago
  It had nothing to do with not supporting the US. Me being from the US is fairly irrelevant, I wasn't expecting accurate data, just curious what the equivalent in Europe would be. What I didn't like was that it assumed that 5% higher than average was like some crazy high percentage and I'm getting totally fleeced and "Ooh snap! We warned you! You totally shouldn't have clicked this link! (except we baited you into it)" It's the attitude the website presented, not the actual data. And it's constructive in so much as I don't want people to use this site as a guideline on how to communicate with its audience when they make their own websites. 5% of my rent is roughly $50 a month, btw. Not insignificant, but not enough to warrant its tone either. And I don't live in the Bay Area, thanks for making another assumption about me.

drjesusphd 11y ago

I think your reaction is a bit extreme (perhaps you're making a joke in the style of the website?) Vitriol? Spite? Please. I think it's a helpful comment for how to improve the website.