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Yeah I get the generalities of "so he can be rich". What can he do with the reputation of "the guy who claimed to be Satoshi"? He's smart enough to know people

by blowski 11y ago

Yeah I get the generalities of "so he can be rich". What can he do with the reputation of "the guy who claimed to be Satoshi"? He's smart enough to know people wouldn't have believed him with the proof he's released.

acqq 11y ago
He just expected for uncertainty to last a little longer. Even now he has the chance to sell the book and movie rights. "How I made BBC believe me." From the Economist's article: "About six months ago, before he was publicly outed in the technology press, he approached Andrew O’Hagan, a Scottish novelist who wrote an “unauthorised autobiography” of Julian Assange, the founder of the whistle-blower site WikiLeaks. Since then the author, whose most recent novel, “The Illuminations”, was longlisted for the 2015 Man Booker Prize, has had complete access to Mr Wright and his family, as well as to his research and business colleagues. Mr O’Hagan is writing a long article for the London Review of Books on Mr Wright and “his journey towards revealing his work.” (Mr O’Hagan, too, has come to be convinced that Mr Wright is Mr Nakamoto.)" http://www.lrb.co.uk/2016/05/01/andrew-ohagan/the-search-for-satoshi http://www.lrb.co.uk/2016/05/01/andrew-ohagan/the-search-for... "Online exclusive · 1 May 2016: The full, long-form account will be published here later this month." "In a world exclusive for the London Review of Books, Andrew O’Hagan spent many months with Craig Wright, the man responsible for what Bill Gates has called ‘the technical tour de force of this generation’." As I've already said in another comment, I can't wait reading O’Hagan's story. He should publish it even if he understands that he'll thus show how credulous he was.
- blowski 11y ago
  So you're saying he expected it would take months to debunk his story, by which time he would have profited handsomely and irreversibly. Right?
  - acqq 11y ago
    Even days or even hours count: he already broke some nice records. His first "outing" and his PGP trick was found and discredited in December, and yet he still managed to do it the second time, even bigger, better and shinier! He is already much more famous than he was in December. I can imagine Leonardo di Caprio to play him in a new variation on the "Catch me if you can" subject. Note there's already a book author who "spent many months" with this fake Satoshi. Also read about big-blockians, the conference in NY that started exactly yesterday etc. https://cp4space.wordpress.com/2016/05/02/is-craig-wright/ https://cp4space.wordpress.com/2016/05/02/is-craig-wright/ http://gizmodo.com/gavin-andresen-i-was-not-hacked-and-i-believe-craig-w-1774226431 http://gizmodo.com/gavin-andresen-i-was-not-hacked-and-i-bel...
verytrivial 11y ago
Well, for his sake I hope he has some sort of direct price manipulation scam going, or at the very least is about to issue some sort of "it was all a test lol!" message -- he has committed reputation suicide regarding his quest to "remove the fear surrounding bitcoin and the blockchain"[1] in every other case. [1] http://www.drcraigwright.net/about/ http://www.drcraigwright.net/about/
- blowski 11y ago
  This is where I'm coming from. It's not like this is some attention-seeking teenager on Reddit. My best guess is that he thought 99% of people would take what he said at face value, and the other 1% would be ignored as nutters, but he judged it wrong. I guess another alternative is that this is some kind of long-play by the Bitcoin Foundation. They need to establish who Satoshi is for the general public in order for Bitcoin to gain further credibility, but since the real Satoshi won't come forward, they have agreed to put up Craig Wright. They can't put forward the real proof everyone is demanding, but they're hoping that enough good PR will make it widely believed. However, even then, it would only take one bit of evidence from the real Satoshi to prove it wasn't Craig Wright so even this theory doesn't seem very good.
  - acqq 11y ago
    > It's not like this is some attention-seeking teenager He is just not a teenager but he is absolutely attention-seeking. Hint: don't believe the statements he gave, do your own research. He has a history of doing exactly the kind of tricks he did this time again. Edit (I can't post new posts): An answer to your next comment where you write "he was clearly making good money out of being an IT consultant:" As far as I understand, the biggest money he tried to make was to get millions from Australia as tax returns for the bitcoin transactions between the companies he made. Far from having a history of a "clean IT consultant." > the details of how he convinced some of the leading Bitcoin devs and major journalists will be fascinating. The expectation of fascination can also be nicely sold. One nice detail is already for all of us to see, on his page and Dan Kaminsky explains it in the title post. I also need less than a minute to send to you anything you want "from the e-mail" "satoshi@vistamail.com" I don't understand why you'd refer to such an e-mail as an argument for anything.
kbart 11y ago
"What can he do with the reputation of "the guy who claimed to be Satoshi"?" The guy in question apparently makes a living creating faux companies and filling fraudulent tax returns in Australia, it doesn't sound like he cares of his reputation that much.
ficklepickle 11y ago
Maybe his big mouth got the better of him, and/or, like many compulsive liars, suffers from strong denial. He spent so much time pretending to be SN to impress investors he believes his own BS. All I'm saying is people are looking for some rational master plan, perhaps there isn't one. Maybe this lie just snowballed out of control.
elif 11y ago
Truth, facts, reality, don't matter. Only the media narrative is relevant. He doesn't need to trick a single computer scientist, he just needs to provide a story that the media can sell, and magically the rationalists become conspiracy theorists. See: the current POTUS front-runner according to yesterday's Rasmussen poll. EDIT: I didn't attempt to explain why the establishment/media would like to enshrine his narrative. They really like having a face to their enemies, someone they can ad-hominem and quote out of context to support the global finance agenda.

by blowski 11y ago

acqq 11y ago

He just expected for uncertainty to last a little longer. Even now he has the chance to sell the book and movie rights. "How I made BBC believe me." From the Economist's article: "About six months ago, before he was publicly outed in the technology press, he approached Andrew O’Hagan, a Scottish novelist who wrote an “unauthorised autobiography” of Julian Assange, the founder of the whistle-blower site WikiLeaks. Since then the author, whose most recent novel, “The Illuminations”, was longlisted for the 2015 Man Booker Prize, has had complete access to Mr Wright and his family, as well as to his research and business colleagues. Mr O’Hagan is writing a long article for the London Review of Books on Mr Wright and “his journey towards revealing his work.” (Mr O’Hagan, too, has come to be convinced that Mr Wright is Mr Nakamoto.)" http://www.lrb.co.uk/2016/05/01/andrew-ohagan/the-search-for-satoshi http://www.lrb.co.uk/2016/05/01/andrew-ohagan/the-search-for... "Online exclusive · 1 May 2016: The full, long-form account will be published here later this month." "In a world exclusive for the London Review of Books, Andrew O’Hagan spent many months with Craig Wright, the man responsible for what Bill Gates has called ‘the technical tour de force of this generation’." As I've already said in another comment, I can't wait reading O’Hagan's story. He should publish it even if he understands that he'll thus show how credulous he was.

blowski 11y ago
So you're saying he expected it would take months to debunk his story, by which time he would have profited handsomely and irreversibly. Right?
- acqq 11y ago
  Even days or even hours count: he already broke some nice records. His first "outing" and his PGP trick was found and discredited in December, and yet he still managed to do it the second time, even bigger, better and shinier! He is already much more famous than he was in December. I can imagine Leonardo di Caprio to play him in a new variation on the "Catch me if you can" subject. Note there's already a book author who "spent many months" with this fake Satoshi. Also read about big-blockians, the conference in NY that started exactly yesterday etc. https://cp4space.wordpress.com/2016/05/02/is-craig-wright/ https://cp4space.wordpress.com/2016/05/02/is-craig-wright/ http://gizmodo.com/gavin-andresen-i-was-not-hacked-and-i-believe-craig-w-1774226431 http://gizmodo.com/gavin-andresen-i-was-not-hacked-and-i-bel...

verytrivial 11y ago

Well, for his sake I hope he has some sort of direct price manipulation scam going, or at the very least is about to issue some sort of "it was all a test lol!" message -- he has committed reputation suicide regarding his quest to "remove the fear surrounding bitcoin and the blockchain"[1] in every other case. [1] http://www.drcraigwright.net/about/ http://www.drcraigwright.net/about/

blowski 11y ago
This is where I'm coming from. It's not like this is some attention-seeking teenager on Reddit. My best guess is that he thought 99% of people would take what he said at face value, and the other 1% would be ignored as nutters, but he judged it wrong. I guess another alternative is that this is some kind of long-play by the Bitcoin Foundation. They need to establish who Satoshi is for the general public in order for Bitcoin to gain further credibility, but since the real Satoshi won't come forward, they have agreed to put up Craig Wright. They can't put forward the real proof everyone is demanding, but they're hoping that enough good PR will make it widely believed. However, even then, it would only take one bit of evidence from the real Satoshi to prove it wasn't Craig Wright so even this theory doesn't seem very good.
- acqq 11y ago
  > It's not like this is some attention-seeking teenager He is just not a teenager but he is absolutely attention-seeking. Hint: don't believe the statements he gave, do your own research. He has a history of doing exactly the kind of tricks he did this time again. Edit (I can't post new posts): An answer to your next comment where you write "he was clearly making good money out of being an IT consultant:" As far as I understand, the biggest money he tried to make was to get millions from Australia as tax returns for the bitcoin transactions between the companies he made. Far from having a history of a "clean IT consultant." > the details of how he convinced some of the leading Bitcoin devs and major journalists will be fascinating. The expectation of fascination can also be nicely sold. One nice detail is already for all of us to see, on his page and Dan Kaminsky explains it in the title post. I also need less than a minute to send to you anything you want "from the e-mail" "satoshi@vistamail.com" I don't understand why you'd refer to such an e-mail as an argument for anything.

kbart 11y ago

"What can he do with the reputation of "the guy who claimed to be Satoshi"?" The guy in question apparently makes a living creating faux companies and filling fraudulent tax returns in Australia, it doesn't sound like he cares of his reputation that much.

ficklepickle 11y ago

Maybe his big mouth got the better of him, and/or, like many compulsive liars, suffers from strong denial. He spent so much time pretending to be SN to impress investors he believes his own BS. All I'm saying is people are looking for some rational master plan, perhaps there isn't one. Maybe this lie just snowballed out of control.

elif 11y ago

Truth, facts, reality, don't matter. Only the media narrative is relevant. He doesn't need to trick a single computer scientist, he just needs to provide a story that the media can sell, and magically the rationalists become conspiracy theorists. See: the current POTUS front-runner according to yesterday's Rasmussen poll. EDIT: I didn't attempt to explain why the establishment/media would like to enshrine his narrative. They really like having a face to their enemies, someone they can ad-hominem and quote out of context to support the global finance agenda.