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10k? That's almost the average income (or more, depending on how you count taxes) of the Czech Republic. If I had to choose between living in a 2nd world countr
by Aoyagi 10y ago
10k? That's almost the average income (or more, depending on how you count taxes) of the Czech Republic. If I had to choose between living in a 2nd world country and working and living in a 1st world country and not working for the same money, guess which I'd choose?
- alehander42 10y agoI am just amused by the "2nd world country" thing. I really fail to see how life in Central Europe is somehow of "lower quality"(e.g. Czech, Poland, Germany) compared to USA. I'd actually prefer living in Central Europe or especially Southern Europe over USA any day.
- ArkyBeagle 10y agoIt's really Old World, New World and Other, which was labelled "The Third World". It's not supposed to be ordinal. Media is advertising supported ( mostly still ) and it's therefore targeted at the New World, which breeds this curious resentment. But if one of these Worlds is to be the Second, I'd think it would be the New World.
- kgwgk 10y agoActually the term "Third World" was used to refer to the non-aligned countries (as opposed to NATO on one side and the communist bloc on the other).
- Aoyagi 10y agoYeah, it's can have many meanings (including "non-EU, non-EEC and non-EFTA countries". I just used the one that's the most popular. ^^
- Aoyagi 10y agoWell since you just bulked Czechia, Poland and Germany into one group, I can understand how you fail to see it. Since you mentioned Germany, I'll use that. A Czech earns about a third of what a German earns. But everything costs more or less the same (except for housing, but the difference certainly isn't multiples). Gasoline costs the same (and much more than in US), vast majority of consumer goods costs the same, food seems to be cheaper, but that's because it's of lower quality. Yeah, education is "free". As is government free to take more than half of what people earn. By "2nd world" I mean "1st world prices, 3rd world wages" (yes I know 3rd world is something incomperable).
- alehander42 10y agoOh, I did it intentionally. I live in Bulgaria and the situation is similar. However my definition of 2nd world is just different, that's all.
- Aoyagi 10y agoWell, of course, I consider it more of a tongue-in-cheek term, heh.
- mason55 10y agoPrices would be much higher here. I imagine your $10k goes much further in Czech
- Aoyagi 10y agoRent is a bit higher and restaurants are tad more expensive. Otherwise no.
- fucking_tragedy 10y agoYou're ignoring that $10k/yr is well below the poverty rate in the US. That's abysmally poor. I'm sure you'd like the $10k/yr + working option better if rice and dog food don't sound like appealing staples.
- Aoyagi 10y agoDo you think an average person can afford a steak but for very rare of occasions here or something? No. The average person buys "on deal" cheap food from "discount store" - quality on par with average dog food. Fruit (except for apples) is almost luxury. It always amuses me when I hear something like "10k USD is below the poverty rate". Do you think the living expenses are notably different?
- fucking_tragedy 10y ago> Do you think an average person can afford a steak but for very rare of occasions here or something? No. The average person buys "on deal" cheap food from "discount store" - quality on par with average dog food. Fruit (except for apples) is almost luxury. It is the same for the poor here. I know, I grew up experiencing it. Would you be happy with that life knowing that the opportunity for more was available and within your reach? Not many would be content with such stagnation when they could (relatively) flourish.
- Aoyagi 10y ago>It is the same for the poor here. Well...yeah. That's the point. American "poor" is the average here. Or a little below average, to be precise.