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The only problem with all this nonsense is that Jason Calacanis wasn't the only one who knew. In fact I probably knew before him. He was just the one who Sam co

by 1938media 17y ago

The only problem with all this nonsense is that Jason Calacanis wasn't the only one who knew. In fact I probably knew before him. He was just the one who Sam confessed to. Did that ever occur to any of you? In terms of this flaming email so what? So Jason sent me an email that I can't even remember which is probably due to the fact that it contained nothing I didn't already know. I don't get this whole thing. No emails of any kind were printed, talked about nothing. Here's my more theatrical response. http://www.1938media.com/crunchgate-the-blame-game/#respond http://www.1938media.com/crunchgate-the-blame-game/#respond

almost 17y ago
You sir appear to be one seriously creepy fellow. What's up with you?
- nailer 17y ago
  I imagine he's pissed off that people are trying to act like he's in the wrong, when he didn't ask for a bribe (like the TechCrunch reporter), nor state he'd provide a bribe (like the poster). I've never met Loren but in general he is refreshingly honest and enjoys raining on the parade of anyone that thinks blogging, parties, and thinly-transparent self-promoting charity events matter more than products do - generally using puppets as a preferred form of expression. We desperately need him to come to London sometime.
  - nailer 17y ago
    To those aggressively moderating me down, I suggest you re-read the HN guidelines - furthermore the parent poster doesn't dispute they said they'd provide a MacBook - read the linked article.
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johnmcdonald 17y ago
Dude, you are seriously unbalanced. Do you have any talents other than yelling into a video camera? Who appointed you the watchdog of tech industry ethics? The worst you can say about Sam Odio is that he wasn't more timely and direct with his refusal. As others have pointed out, saying maybe is often an easier way of saying no. In the end he didn't provide the kick back and he did the right thing by going to Techcrunch. I'm sure you've got your own skeletons and as you so ominously warned Odio, 'you will get what's coming to you'. Karma's a bitch.
- petercooper 17y ago
  If you came in blind to Loren on this particular episode, sure, he comes off as a bit of a tool, but he's playing this as theater. I don't know 100%, but I think he's playing a great "angry man" persona (in a similar way to how Zed Shaw did for a while - just in video form). I rarely agree with anything Loren says, but he makes for compelling, funny watching. Take his recent review of ChatRoulette, for example: http://youtu.be/nMlTuS39zC0 http://youtu.be/nMlTuS39zC0 - watching Loren is like visiting one of those theme restaurants that have deliberately bad service. He also looks like my plumber, so that makes him pretty cool in my book.
  - johnmcdonald 17y ago
    No, I have seen a lot of his videos and he always comes off as a tool. I've heard Loren and others justify his attacks on people as comedy, but comedy is meant to be funny. And trust me when I say that the dude can dish it but he certainly can't take it. More to the point of this article though is that he threatened to expose someone and possibly damage their reputation without any proof of wrongdoing. There's nothing wrong with expressing your opinion about or making light of a situation. What he did is closer to blackmail or defamation.

almost 17y ago

You sir appear to be one seriously creepy fellow. What's up with you?

nailer 17y ago
I imagine he's pissed off that people are trying to act like he's in the wrong, when he didn't ask for a bribe (like the TechCrunch reporter), nor state he'd provide a bribe (like the poster). I've never met Loren but in general he is refreshingly honest and enjoys raining on the parade of anyone that thinks blogging, parties, and thinly-transparent self-promoting charity events matter more than products do - generally using puppets as a preferred form of expression. We desperately need him to come to London sometime.
- nailer 17y ago
  To those aggressively moderating me down, I suggest you re-read the HN guidelines - furthermore the parent poster doesn't dispute they said they'd provide a MacBook - read the linked article.

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johnmcdonald 17y ago

Dude, you are seriously unbalanced. Do you have any talents other than yelling into a video camera? Who appointed you the watchdog of tech industry ethics? The worst you can say about Sam Odio is that he wasn't more timely and direct with his refusal. As others have pointed out, saying maybe is often an easier way of saying no. In the end he didn't provide the kick back and he did the right thing by going to Techcrunch. I'm sure you've got your own skeletons and as you so ominously warned Odio, 'you will get what's coming to you'. Karma's a bitch.

petercooper 17y ago
If you came in blind to Loren on this particular episode, sure, he comes off as a bit of a tool, but he's playing this as theater. I don't know 100%, but I think he's playing a great "angry man" persona (in a similar way to how Zed Shaw did for a while - just in video form). I rarely agree with anything Loren says, but he makes for compelling, funny watching. Take his recent review of ChatRoulette, for example: http://youtu.be/nMlTuS39zC0 http://youtu.be/nMlTuS39zC0 - watching Loren is like visiting one of those theme restaurants that have deliberately bad service. He also looks like my plumber, so that makes him pretty cool in my book.
- johnmcdonald 17y ago
  No, I have seen a lot of his videos and he always comes off as a tool. I've heard Loren and others justify his attacks on people as comedy, but comedy is meant to be funny. And trust me when I say that the dude can dish it but he certainly can't take it. More to the point of this article though is that he threatened to expose someone and possibly damage their reputation without any proof of wrongdoing. There's nothing wrong with expressing your opinion about or making light of a situation. What he did is closer to blackmail or defamation.