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WTF, you had me until the "SJW" group being the most guilty. My guess is that you're part of some ingroup that is polarized against the SJW group so it seems to

by guelo 11y ago

WTF, you had me until the "SJW" group being the most guilty. My guess is that you're part of some ingroup that is polarized against the SJW group so it seems to you like it's the most extreme. But that's just typical polarized ingroup thinking.

chatmasta 11y ago
That's why I included the paragraph after that, saying "every group is guilty of this." Yes, I include myself in that, and yes you are correct in your assessment of my polarization.
Slothrop99 11y ago
I don't know about "most guilty", but when you have a group who first and foremost values intense self-critisism, they're going to be highly obnoxious on social media because of in-group signaling. For myself, I don't engage on this stuff on social media. But my mother gets all riled up arguing with her "republican jerks" and "trumps" on facebook. But in the end they all go out and drink too much and have a grand old time. It's a different mentality.
hueving 11y ago
They easily fall into the most extreme category when it comes to online discourse. I've never seen a group more organized when it comes to brigading and propaganda about how to respond with essentially copy and paste replies to any category of response elicited to their arguments. SJWs pushed out the CEO of Mozilla, made GitHub stop rewarding people based on the merit of their work, and pressured companies to hire under qualified minorities over other more qualified people[1]. Even if they don't have a strong presence in other industries, they have completely dominated tech companies to the point where people fear using a race or gender to describe how someone looks. 1. Assuming equal qualifications from each group, there will be more qualified non-minorities than minorities by definition.
- tomlock 11y ago
  I think SJWs would respond that meritocracy has always been an illusion in tech because people will still hire for "culture fit". And the predominant culture in tech companies, by survey and measurement, seems to be male. The idea that tech is "completely dominated" seems to fly in the face of those numbers - which I'm assuming you see SJWs as perceiving negatively at this point?
venomsnake 11y ago
The SJW are definitely the most vocal and annoying lately. Reading their posts makes you dream about the d eloquent communist debates in USSR plenums after the October revolution. http://www.vox.com/2016/4/21/11451378/smug-american-liberalism http://www.vox.com/2016/4/21/11451378/smug-american-liberali...
kmm 11y ago
I don't know about the parent, but you'd guess that wrong about me. There are a ton of subreddits I sort of politically align with that I can't join because I don't align with their brand of feminism. Besides that, I think there's something wrong if you can get banned for using the word "bitch", even to describe a man or nobody at all, on a very non-serious sub. I've yet to meet someone with that opinion in real life I personally have no interesting in aligning with an anti-SJW ingroup, because it seems like a waste of time, and they tend to attract people on the other kind of the spectrum, which isn't ideal either.

by guelo 11y ago

chatmasta 11y ago

That's why I included the paragraph after that, saying "every group is guilty of this." Yes, I include myself in that, and yes you are correct in your assessment of my polarization.

Slothrop99 11y ago

I don't know about "most guilty", but when you have a group who first and foremost values intense self-critisism, they're going to be highly obnoxious on social media because of in-group signaling. For myself, I don't engage on this stuff on social media. But my mother gets all riled up arguing with her "republican jerks" and "trumps" on facebook. But in the end they all go out and drink too much and have a grand old time. It's a different mentality.

hueving 11y ago

They easily fall into the most extreme category when it comes to online discourse. I've never seen a group more organized when it comes to brigading and propaganda about how to respond with essentially copy and paste replies to any category of response elicited to their arguments. SJWs pushed out the CEO of Mozilla, made GitHub stop rewarding people based on the merit of their work, and pressured companies to hire under qualified minorities over other more qualified people[1]. Even if they don't have a strong presence in other industries, they have completely dominated tech companies to the point where people fear using a race or gender to describe how someone looks. 1. Assuming equal qualifications from each group, there will be more qualified non-minorities than minorities by definition.

tomlock 11y ago
I think SJWs would respond that meritocracy has always been an illusion in tech because people will still hire for "culture fit". And the predominant culture in tech companies, by survey and measurement, seems to be male. The idea that tech is "completely dominated" seems to fly in the face of those numbers - which I'm assuming you see SJWs as perceiving negatively at this point?

venomsnake 11y ago

The SJW are definitely the most vocal and annoying lately. Reading their posts makes you dream about the d eloquent communist debates in USSR plenums after the October revolution. http://www.vox.com/2016/4/21/11451378/smug-american-liberalism http://www.vox.com/2016/4/21/11451378/smug-american-liberali...

kmm 11y ago

I don't know about the parent, but you'd guess that wrong about me. There are a ton of subreddits I sort of politically align with that I can't join because I don't align with their brand of feminism. Besides that, I think there's something wrong if you can get banned for using the word "bitch", even to describe a man or nobody at all, on a very non-serious sub. I've yet to meet someone with that opinion in real life I personally have no interesting in aligning with an anti-SJW ingroup, because it seems like a waste of time, and they tend to attract people on the other kind of the spectrum, which isn't ideal either.