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Regardless of whose story is correct (http://www.1938media.com/crunchgate-what-makes-sammy-run http://www.1938media.com/crunchgate-what-makes-sammy-run vs. http

Regardless of whose story is correct (http://www.1938media.com/crunchgate-what-makes-sammy-run http://www.1938media.com/crunchgate-what-makes-sammy-run vs. http://sam.bluwiki.com/blog/2010/03/confession-i-was-one-who-came-forward.php http://sam.bluwiki.com/blog/2010/03/confession-i-was-one-who...), a real lesson for young people in this community emerged: Your character and personality can be more powerful than your fame. People here have commented on how thoughtful and helpful Sam is. Yet Loren's tone of voice alone has made it probably impossible for his words to be taken seriously. Imagine his above response written calmly - or even just respectfully: He would stand a much better chance of being listened to. And Jason's approach to the matter appears equally immature. I've never met any of these players, but Sam sounds like he's much older than Jason or Loren. This doesn't mean you have to sound like a "boring old guy" - but it does mean that you give yourself an uphill battle when you speak like a child.

lotharbot 17y ago
My only exposure to this has been this thread and the links posted in it. This has allowed me to see Sam, Jason, and Loren in action. I have no chips in this game, so to speak; having never heard of any of these people before today, I'm as neutral an observer as they come. Sam comes across as thoughtful, tempted to do something foolish and immoral, but ultimately a guy who did the right thing. Daniel (via secondhand sources) comes across as a fool who may have sacrificed his career over a macbook, but who seems to have learned from his foolishness. It remains to be seen how he'll weather this. Loren and Jason don't come across as reasonable or trustworthy to me. None of what they've said here or in the linked stories has made me think "these are people I want to go to for information". Jason seems to have trouble taking things seriously and he's made a lot of excuses for himself. Loren just comes across as mean and vindictive. So I guess my contribution to this thread is to say, Loren and Jason, you've created some image problems for yourselves. I know I'll be taking anything I see your names attached to with a grain of salt from here on out.

lotharbot 17y ago

My only exposure to this has been this thread and the links posted in it. This has allowed me to see Sam, Jason, and Loren in action. I have no chips in this game, so to speak; having never heard of any of these people before today, I'm as neutral an observer as they come. Sam comes across as thoughtful, tempted to do something foolish and immoral, but ultimately a guy who did the right thing. Daniel (via secondhand sources) comes across as a fool who may have sacrificed his career over a macbook, but who seems to have learned from his foolishness. It remains to be seen how he'll weather this. Loren and Jason don't come across as reasonable or trustworthy to me. None of what they've said here or in the linked stories has made me think "these are people I want to go to for information". Jason seems to have trouble taking things seriously and he's made a lot of excuses for himself. Loren just comes across as mean and vindictive. So I guess my contribution to this thread is to say, Loren and Jason, you've created some image problems for yourselves. I know I'll be taking anything I see your names attached to with a grain of salt from here on out.