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> First, WhatsApp is a US company and has no presence in Brazil. I certainly disagree with this ruling, but "no presence in Brazil" is wrong and contradicted b

by cplease 10y ago

> First, WhatsApp is a US company and has no presence in Brazil. I certainly disagree with this ruling, but "no presence in Brazil" is wrong and contradicted by Facebook itself: https://www.facebook.com/careers/locations/saopaulo/ https://www.facebook.com/careers/locations/saopaulo/ > São Paulo, Brazil 23 open positions > One of the most talented and diverse cities in the world, Sao Paulo is a hub for our operations throughout Latin America. Our teams make an impact by providing support to our communities, small and medium businesses and brands in the region. And of course their Latin America VP is located in this office: http://www.zdnet.com/article/facebook-hires-new-latin-america-head/ http://www.zdnet.com/article/facebook-hires-new-latin-americ... So I don't know where the bizarre idea that Facebook has "no presence" in Brazil comes from.

ultrasandwich 10y ago
WhatsApp and Facebook are in fact still separate companies. Just making this distinction.
- cplease 10y ago
  "Separate" as in WhatsApp Inc. is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Facebook Inc. That matters a lot.
  - ultrasandwich 10y ago
    I suppose, but would you refer to General Electric and Telemundo in the same interchangeable way? Same difference. If I were applying to a job in GE's aviation research division, I wouldn't mail my application to Telemundo.
    - cplease 10y ago
      That's actually wrong at multiple levels; Telemundo is a division of NBCUniversal, a wholly owned subsidiary of Comcast since 2013. It would be an apt comparison, if you imagine that Comcast had a Latin American headquarters in Brazil, where Telemundo's Portuguese telenovelas have millions of viewers; it would be weak tea for NBCUniversal to then argue that Brazil had no jurisdiction over it and the programming it distributes there because the shows are produced in Florida and NBCUniversal has no employees there.

by cplease 10y ago

ultrasandwich 10y ago

WhatsApp and Facebook are in fact still separate companies. Just making this distinction.

cplease 10y ago
"Separate" as in WhatsApp Inc. is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Facebook Inc. That matters a lot.
- ultrasandwich 10y ago
  I suppose, but would you refer to General Electric and Telemundo in the same interchangeable way? Same difference. If I were applying to a job in GE's aviation research division, I wouldn't mail my application to Telemundo.
  - cplease 10y ago
    That's actually wrong at multiple levels; Telemundo is a division of NBCUniversal, a wholly owned subsidiary of Comcast since 2013. It would be an apt comparison, if you imagine that Comcast had a Latin American headquarters in Brazil, where Telemundo's Portuguese telenovelas have millions of viewers; it would be weak tea for NBCUniversal to then argue that Brazil had no jurisdiction over it and the programming it distributes there because the shows are produced in Florida and NBCUniversal has no employees there.